Fox Nation is dangerous




Fox News is a threat to this nation. You saw the image and it speaks for itself. We must demand that the Secret Service, Department of Homeland Security, the FBI and White House officials investigate this news outlet and Fox News President Roger Ailes. Something sinister is going on behind the scenes and it’s dangerous.

Ailes and his dangerous co-horts Bill Shine, John Moody, Sean Hannity, Glenn Beck must be investigated immediately by federal authorities.

Forget Muslim terrorists. Radical rightwing extremism is a threat to this nation, and if not stop, will destroy what’s left of this country.

Call the White House and demand an investigation of Fox News and let them know about this image.

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  • 5/5/2009 4:34 PM socrates wrote:
    This reminded me of the "rats" subliminal controversy from the 2000 election.

    At first glance, Antoinette, I wasn't sure if you were making a big deal out of nothing. But I think you are onto something. There is no justification for the image of a rifle to be pointed at Obama and Jackson. There should be a hefty fine placed on Faux News for this dangerous imagery. Good catch.

    http://www.asu.edu/studentaffairs/studentmedia/archives/2000/00fall/sp/sp000913/oped01.html

    {excerpts}
    What most viewers don't consciously register is one frame containing large, all-capital, white letters: "RATS."

    The ad has been running in 33 U.S. markets since August, but the allegedly subliminal message was discovered only when an astute Seattle Democrat found it and alerted The New York Times, who reported the story Tuesday.

    "RATS" flashes for one-thirtieth of a second, but the controversy will undoubtedly endure -- possibly throughout the remainder of the presidential campaign. Well, at least the campaign is starting to get exciting. By "exciting," we mean "ugly."

    ...

    The Times further reported that almost every advertising professional they interviewed said that because of modern technology and the way commercials are put together, it would have been nearly impossible for the producer to not know "rats" was there.

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  • 5/9/2009 12:43 AM socrates wrote:
    I don't see how a true lefty would ever go on Fox TV. MSOC of MLW, however, has no qualms about doing that. I also caught her sticking up for Elisabeth Hasslebeck of The View.

    I feel no need for we the progressives to believe in any kind of redemption for rightwingers, be it Arlen Specter, Joe Lieberman, or the Fox News producer friend of Maryscott O'Connor.

    I've written a new post on this at pffugeecamp. I'm not too sure about wanting to post there, because the admin Laura is allowing sock puppets to run rampant. So I am basically here, at my humble forum, and perhaps I will revitalize the davefromqueens2 blogspot. I have been in email exchange with Dave's sister. I told her my real name and a bit about myself. I have nothing to hide. The only reason I am staying anonymous at this point is for personal safety, and for the simple reason that my real name means nothing. There is not one iota of anything on the internet about me except for my blogging.

    I do not appreciate the cybersmear script that has been used against me over the years. I have proof of such a thing. That is why I have asked donkeytale to not refer to me as sock rat. I only called him the "historic troll" after he had called me that. As for myself going after anyone else such as MSOC, Steven Hertzberg, Michael Fingerit, Larisa Alexandrovna and others, there has been nothing malicious about it. They went after me first. I then went into cybersleuth mode.

    My blogging days are winding down from what they were in the past. It is disappointing that freedom of speech and association is being perverted on the net. While I will never be as prolific again, I do promise to never give up. I am no quitter.

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/04/14/AR2006041401648.html
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    1. 5/9/2009 7:07 AM donkeytale wrote:
      Yeah, Pffugee Camp is a beating. I posted there about beer, figuring that it would draw out the slime from the woodwork, and sure enuff, there it is, "Hair Club for Men." Clearly, not the original. Possible Shadowthief, but more likely and ho-hummily just another FSZ blogmaid out to ruin everybody's pffun since they already ruined their own.

      There is no end to the wonders of the info boobtubez.

      Here, we have breathtaking evidence in real time of loosers committing themselves to their own personal, living hells just for spite.

      RIOTOUS! And everybody can see that they are hiding behind sockkkks of sockkkkkkks.

      this is why I love the whiteysphere.
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      1. 5/9/2009 6:49 PM socrates wrote:
        I'm getting a bad feeling about pffugee camp. It's like Laura is only upset with Jack for banning us for no good reason. It's like she came to the rescue in deja vu style like Jack did after Peeder closed shop. I'm not looking for places where I have the right to be trolled on. That's what upset me so much about MLW. MSOC didn't put a stop to multiple numbers of posters attacking me ad hominem style. Then she eventually started calling me bad names. When I returned the offer, she banned me. So MSOC appears to be all about giving folks the right to take a verbal beating or comply Animal House style, "Thank you sir, may I have another."

        And you nailed it about the emphasis on sock puppets at the pffugee camp. The irony or whatever is that neither of us use them, but the unfounded attacks continue that we do.

        There's still a Francis L. Holland username which is obviously not him. Laura is saying unless people email her with complaints, she will do nothing about it. Francis probably doesn't even go near that new version of a sewer.

        I also don't like the huge emphasis there and at FSZ on Israel/Palestine. I noticed at FSZ and DKos how it seems to be some form of a controlled oppositional script. It is an important issue, but it seems to be all I/P, all the time. It reminds me of when the get out of Iraq peace rally got hijacked by A.N.S.W.E.R..

        Jack has snidely referred to FairLeft as Cesar Chavez, after we went after MSOC for running interference for the upper class.

        The "blogmaids" from FSZ are seemingly behind the sock puppet crapola at pffugee. Jack has said I am Noom. The fake noom recently used the word "Joos." I googled Noom and Joos and got nothing. When I searched socrates and Joos, the first return was a post of mine.

        I'm probably just gonna post here and at my humble place. If I post at pffugee camp, it will be very rarely. The thing about posting at FSZ for me was I tended to just stay on a few threads anyway, because I don't like running around trying to remember where the dialogue is I have been involved with. I like this forum and am trying to make appropriate posts in regards to what Antoinette is coming up with. You have also. I guess if we can post like that once in a while, she will see that the meta stuff we are on about is related to what Dave was into.

        Jack has been trying to spin the UGOG thing a certain way. The few of us who have confronted him each time he has spun revisionist history, he has set the "blogmaids" on us while ramping up outright lies.



        Here's hoping our basketball teams can turn it around tomorrow. Being down 1-3 might be asking a bit too much for a comeback chance.

        Uhm, I guess that'll do it. Oh yeah, the first hint I got that MLW was corrupt was finding out that Phil I. Stine is a producer for Fox News. Then I saw how MeSoc has been on Fox News and goes on their radio shows. Fox News is dangerous to democracy. A true liberal or lefty progressive would never go on that network.
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        1. 5/11/2009 4:55 PM donkeytale wrote:
          Laura's OK. She's being trickfucked by the petulant and jealous little twitches who pissed in their own cornflakes and still wont just eat them and move on.

          Sooner or later they will wither away, like they always do....leaving a permanent public record of whiteyspheric douchebaggery that likely will never be topped.

          But who knows?

          Or cares, for that matter.

          I see that pinche joto is trying to scare me with some anti-trolling law that supposedly's been introduced in Congress. He postd it at Fugee.

          RIOTOUS! I can see it now. The day O'Bama signs the law about 12 million complaints will be filed with police departments across the country.

          The Daily Kos alone will acount for 80% of the complaints. Hell, I might file one myslef. Cant wait.

          I'm wrighting my congressman now in support of this timely and vital legislation to make sure no adult pwoggies lacking the self worth and intestinal fortitude of even 14 year old girls will forever be vindicated for having to participate with that kkkruel online pedophiliac, the donkkkuise de Sade.

          Wow. I'm skkkared.

          Had an interesting weekend. Went to a house we own but is vacant, to do some cleanup and renovation work. The kicker was, no cable and no internet connectivity for two daze.

          Lots of good old fashioned manuel la-bore.

          It actually turned out all right. Mostly, I did yard work and painted outside some. Did the heavy lifting for the wife, who handles all the skilled labor with dexterity. Korean know how and gumption to the max. Together, we ran a crew of three Mexicans to help speed up the process. $60 per day per muchacho plus lunch.

          Say what you will about the Mexican day labourer, but one thing is sure: he earns his money along his lunch.

          Evenings, we found a few DVDs in the cupboard, Korean TV shows mainly, sitcoms game shows, stuff like that. Some Chinese movies, which were quite interesting and vulgar. These were all Hong Kong productions froIn one, a guy kills a young woman and then pisses all over her death mask. This turned out to be some sort of black comedy. Surreal. Four sets of subtitles, but we were watching on a small TV, so we couldnt follow either the English or Korean translation very well. The English translation was terrible, which kkkrcked me up. I wished it had been dubbed into English. Dubbed movies reule! Remember, when Bill Murray used to do Hercules on SNL, in black & white, with a fake dubbed in voice? RIOTOUS!

          I followed along as best I could. You get used to it after awhile. You can follow whats going on but the context is missing.

          Weird.

          Anyway, it was very pleasant far from the infoboob tubez, as well as the original boobtube.

          I actually like Frau Tale! Amazing. Who knew? I guess we miss alot of different stuff when we live inside our on headz too much.

          I did see BOS and HOU split and are 2-2. HOU looks better without Artest and without Yao. Yao is a lumbering big man, and lumbering big men just cant beat quick.
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          1. 5/11/2009 6:05 PM donkeytale wrote:
            Error on the donkkkkey: erase the words "without Artest" from above post. I dont know where that one came from. Weird.

            I just got back into UL (unreal lief) from RL so I checked around. More threatening sockkks of sockkkkkks at Pffuggee Camp. Otherwise, I like that Laura left Fairleft's war porn atop the front page for the weekend.

            Thats the way a free speech blog ought to be run. Or any blog for that matter. Erratically, at beat. Good show Laura.

            And then, OTOH, you have MSOC. What a piece of work. I have long known that she makes comments in people's hreads without having read the thread. Robomsoc. She posted a typikkkal "off" comment in FL's war porn crosspost at MLW, saying something like " im so tired of all these people bring their personality conflicts here" or wtf.

            RIOTOUS! You've got to hand it to MSOC> the age of the screwball ditz will never die!

            And boys, she's single!

            My money's on Pyrrho, but wouldnt it be something if a Shadowthief puppet is the lucky guy who bags her first, post-divo? Or, has "pole position" already been established in the race for MSOC's heart?

            Enquiring minds want to know.

            I wonder if I'll get an invite to the post divorce coming out MLW meetup at chez, the former O'connors?

            I'm pretty sure the only way you'll get in is if I take you along as my date, and the only way I take you along as my date is if Melvin turns me down.
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            1. 5/11/2009 11:14 PM socrates wrote:
              One of my biggest defenses, imho, is the number of sock puppets and other usernames trying to scare me off of the blogosphere. A lot of them have the modus operandi of CometMan. I have gotten a lot of those. Hemlock. Larisa Alexandrovna. Brett Kimberlin. Greenwood. Standing Watch. DeeDogg. Now there's a new one called the Dept. of Justice. Good call, Senor DonkeyTale. When you're right, you're wright.

              And Vox Humana keeps chugging along in denial. He wrote something lately about holding out hope for Jack. When's it get to the point that we can question whether such usernames have insidious agendas? That Ned Flanders persona seems to be wrapped a wee bit too tight.

              Look at Bottles, MajorFlaw, and Trashablanca, the trifecta that Dave exposed. Now every single one of their posts has to be questioned. Can the folks who have attacked people like ourselves say the same about our posts? Maybe one can disagree with stuff we have posted. Maybe they can say we must have been drunk at the time or whatnot sometimes. But as an internet friend once told me, "Soul cannot be faked."

              Let's will a Houston-Boston finals. Though, perhaps Denver and Cleveland have other ideas. Plus, we are both looking at tough series regardless of any perceived momentum. I would be so happy if both our teams won regardless of who wins the conference finals. I've a feeling this year could give us a bit of a March Madness feel to it. Hey, we in Boston are shocked that The Truth actually dished the ball off to Big Baby. That one game has made the Celtics year no matter what, seeing how our best player is out. And the sixth man for the Celtics seems to be Van Gundy. And kudos to Charles Barkley. I like that dude's style.

              Peace out.
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          2. 5/11/2009 10:23 PM socrates wrote:
            I hope Laura is ok, and it's just a matter of her missing the big picture. This FSZ thing goes well beyond that people are unfairly banned from what is supposed to be a free speech zone. Jack and his gang have been trying to put forward some script, and we have confronted him every time he has rewritten history in regards to Dave and the UGOG/KosKops.

            No way does his story add up. One giveaway is how so many say he's just a kid or this or that. Number5 in an email gave me that line. I'm not buying it. No one goes from a GED to being in advanced seminars. No way does he have all these older lawyer friends. No one outright lies as often as he does without there being some hidden agenda, imho.

            MeSoc says she is going to the FBI for myself. She called me a stalker for posting some of her Huffington stuff and a clip from a video she did many years ago. Stalking would be if I went back to her website after she perma-banned me. Stalking would be if I figured out her phone # or email and harrassed her. I'm not scared either. She's a public figure. It's not my fault she has been busted sticking up for the rich and Fox News, that she is an atheist, that she has posted very lewd comments.

            I don't want her or Kos or any other fake progressives representing what I believe is in my heart and that of other true lefties. Periodicity.

            Who is this Phil. I. Stine? It's said he is a producer for Fox News, and he is a regular and good friend of MeSoc. Is he "Angry Rich?" People should google John Gibson, the Fox dude MSOC was interviewed by, and his producer, Angry Rich.

            KarmaFish has put up a picture of himself. This is what operative types do, when the inevitable accusations arise due to their posting patterns. They think by putting up a picture, that shows they are "regular guys." Pffooie {I couldn't bear to write feh}.

            The white-o-sphere is all about crushing individualism and consensus based on such. That's how I see it. Dave was unique. He had the brilliant schtick going with the street theater and with confronting Hannity and Levin at book signings.

            I think it's a fair question whether Michael Fingerit is associated with those two wingnuts.

            War porn? Why does that phrase keep popping up? Now I see Star Trek everywhere. I'm seeing Wanda Sykes everywhere. I'm sensing the same old, same old cynical approach to keep blog hits in the soap blox family.

            And why does Alexa.com now report that over 78% of MyLeftWing users are coming from India?

            I've been starting to get off the net too lately. It feels good. Maybe it's a blessing to find out there is really no place to go to help build a "community."

            I'm seeing your pure genius where emails are no good. If you have something to say, why not just say it?

            Thanks for the compliment you gave me the other day. It's buried somewhere in mounds of riotous and sock rats. You know what I mean. It's like that beer ad from a few years back, "I love you, man."

            I'm up to the character limit but have more to say.
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          3. 5/11/2009 10:59 PM socrates wrote:
            Pinche Tejano should not have been supporting Ron Paul. Remember my spiel about cutting the military-industrial complex by 80%? Jack shouldn't have written that he didn't care about reducing the military. KarmaFish has a problem with war porn? Is that like when Barbara Bush doesn't want to waste her beautiful mind on tough imagery? The truth hurts?

            Remember Johnny Got His Gun or All Quiet on the Western Front? Anyone who is complaining about war porn might as well be a political operative working for the ptb's.

            Your thing about Mexican people working hard is the truth. The Irish are hard workers too. I lived in Ireland. I've never been the same since- perpetual culture shock. Stereotypes are bogus.

            Did you see that Bill Murray movie where he was a has-been actor working in Japan? I think it was Japan. Brilliant stuff. It was like he was the jaded Donkeytale of television and billboards.

            Bill Murray was my favourite. It was like Chevy Chase who? I remember that Hercules skit. And what was up with all those reruns the last years for SNL being from the worst eras. They were even putting on a lot of post-Will Ferrell shows. Yipers.

            Dubbed movies? Yeah, those are cool if the actors are people you know, and the voices don't line up. Subtitles are better but a lot more work.

            You darn better well love that woman Frau Tale. They are truly the better half. DavidByron needs to chill out. I've never seen any lefty that adamant against femminists. Now how can that be anyone's #1 issue in times like this?

            As for atheism, I don't understand that one iota. Why not just say you're agnostic and just don't know? And why are so many at DKos atheists? Maybe it's proper to call them the Satanic Orange.

            Great job by Houston without Yao. You must have meant Dikembe or McGrady. So you had a 6'6" guy at center and won. After last year's finals, I'm not sure how anyone can be so sure of the Lakers. And Cleveland is no shoo in either. Though I think that center for the Cavs is superb, and Lebron is incredible. But if you force Delonte and Zerbs and the other scrubs to beat you, Cleveland is not a guarantee. But Perk's shoulder is strained. Ouch. He says he is ok and can rest it after the season. If Perk goes down, the Celtics are finished. Scals is starting to look mediocre again. He switches off too much. Mikki Moore has to be the worst 7 footer I've ever seen. I mean, Big Baby is what, 6'8" and can play center better than Mikki? Starbury is really starting to pay off. If Rondo can keep it up, the Celtics could win this whole fricken thing. Back in 1969, they had the fourth best record in their division or something. The Lakers had the balloons ready to go. The C's won. Upsets can happen. It's easy to pad wins during the regular season.

            We were right when we picked the five teams with a chance. Orlando might beat the Celtics but are very soft. But I guess they lost their starting point guard. Howard is overrated. Or maybe Perkins is underrated?
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            1. 5/12/2009 12:13 AM donkeytale wrote:
              I'll be offline for most of this week, traveling and working. Today will be it for me. I've been chatting with MSOC about your situaton. I even posted the Texas Law on harrassment. Its pretty clear that you cant harrass someone solely in a blog thread. Especially one where you are not even conversing directly with that person. Harrassment, at least in the Lone Star State would require phone calling, jamming their fax with messages, IM'ing, that sort of direct interaction, of obscene threatning etc.

              The Megan Meier law. RIOTOUS! And the so-called free speech zone advocate pinche tejano backs such a law? Ha Ha.Ha. Figures, doesnt it? The fascisization of the FSZ. That has a wring to it, no? F-S-Z.

              Waitll he ends up with the Govt strap right across his back because he gets found guilty. Read the law. EVERYONE is guilty as it is now worded. They shoud call it the "Franz Kafka Law."

              I watched bits and pieces of DEN-DAL.

              DEN looks awfully good at times. The West seems pretty open. I did mean MacGready in the above thread. HOU is winning in the playoffs without their two biggest stars. This make sperfect sense, since they have never won a single opening round series with their two biggest starz. \

              The lumbering bg man hasnt been truly effective in the NBA since the Mikan era. Russell pwned Chamberlain. Chamberlain generally underperformed in NBA title series.

              Jabbar won lots late in his career with perhaps the best team of all time, where he was the third option in the offense and often not even the top rebounder.

              Shaq won big but I dont consider him "lumbering" by any stretch. He was first step quick to the hoop and to explosive to be stopped.

              Look at the LeBron draft. What a great draft year. Carmelo, Wade.....and Darko? WTF?

              CLE looks pretty tough for BOS this year, I'm afraid. This could be the year of anointment for King James, who leadeth his Cavaliers into battle.

              But the Yaoless Rockets found some life. Yao's absence sure opened up the court for the HOU point guard, Brooks.

              They went with a 6-6 center and still dominated the boards. LA had a perfect chane but they werent prepped for that lineup, clearly. I didnt see any games Sat or Sunday but I listened to HOU sports talk driving in my car-car today so got a perfect feel for how the game went down.

              I find myself doing that a lot as I grow older, when it comes to sports: simply rely on the media recap the next day. Sports Center and a bit of hoops talk and I didnt need to sit thru all those beer commercials after all.
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              1. 5/12/2009 1:54 PM socrates wrote:
                I've gotta be quick with this. I appreciate you throwing cold water on this former Daily Kos icon, but alluding to me being the Shadowthief dude was no good. It's remeniscient of how you "stood up" for Dave. Yes, you are good at promoting free speech, but when it comes to the specifics, you are often nowhere to be found. MSOC is calling me a stalker for rummaging through her HuffingtonPost entries. It's not my fault she has stuck for the rich and Fox News. It's not my fault she is a public figure, who has made many lewd comments on the internet. It's not my fault that she has run interference for Markos Moulitsas. On and on, it's not my fault she has been an utter failure in building up a community full of sincere, intelligent, truly progressive people.

                Yes, she is way out of line. I am not scared. Heck, if by chance I am paid a visit, I will make lemons out of lemonade. Bet on it- a gentleman bet that is, kinda low on cash here.

                I saved the lager beer diary you made at MLW with her posts. You are totally correct that there has been no stalking going on. She is a public figure accepting donations and other revenue for her "political" website. Also, all I will probably have to do is show Agents Fox and Mulder her own words. Maybe then I could file a counterclaim or at least talk them into charging her with making a false one. Talk about harrassment and a potty mouth.

                This kind of stuff has been going on for years with the net. We're always being told to watch what we say. We're given all these scary, over the top scenarios that never pan out. We're given one rabbit hole of drama after another.

                It probably wasn't a coincidence that "Pinche Tejano" was the one to issue the recent warning against free speech. Steven Hertzberg was another Ron Paul supporter showing up on "lefty" blogs like Pinche and Tinoire of Progressive Independent. What MeSoc refers to as stalking, I and others refer to as cyber-sleuthing. I found one Hertzberg quote in which he admonished citizen reporters.

                It goes back to the thread here posted by Dave in which he documented your confrontation with Jack over "regular guys," and how Dave didn't do anything wrong. Didn't Pinche Tejano get caught in some lie about being at the WTO protest? If so, folks should try to prove that. Then certainly he is no "regular guy" just as neither are MaryScott O'Connor and Michael Fingerit.

                MSOC should not be trying to give me trouble in real life. I think she is being played like a fiddle by insidious forces. I've done nothing wrong, and thus there is no reason for me to cease and desist. Check out her posts. She did the kind of stuff she accuses me of doing. My stuff was pretty much about exposing her rightwing tendencies and associations. And Cheryl is now playing the role of Susan Something in prodding and poking someone into doing things, yet never truly being there after to help understand true ramifications. I'm a good blogger who's done important work. For hoops- it is what it is.
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  • 5/9/2009 12:46 AM socrates wrote:
    Oops. The above link is to a Washington Post article on MSOC.

    I meant to give a link to this post I just wrote at PFFugeeCamp.

    http://pffugeecamp.com/showComment.do?commentId=1665
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  • 5/11/2009 11:34 PM socrates wrote:
    Fox News Ambushes Janeane Garofalo
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1wYcKDO8RFI
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    1. 5/11/2009 11:44 PM socrates wrote:
      Mea culpa on the Wanda Sykes comment above. I now see that it is a current event topic. She performed at the White House Correspondent's Dinner. For those who missed the one Stephen Colbert did, that is must see tv. I like Wanda Sykes too. I like it when entertainers speak truth to power. I like Sean Penn. I like Rosie and of course I would marrie Janeane Garofalo no questions asked.

      On the flip side, I don't appreciate apolitical celebrities. If you have the platform to make a difference, do it. The personal truly is political. So since one of the latest themes is hoops, I'll commend Charles Barkley for speaking for the masses and condemn a dude like Michael Jordan who doesn't appear to have used his gravitas in any way for the betterment of humankind.
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  • 5/14/2009 7:05 PM donkeytale wrote:
    The Shadowthief allusion was complimentary. People often claim that I am shadowthief or a shadowthief sock. Its entirely possible that a shadowthief sock is making these claims.

    I always take it as a compliment, although there were some clues left by the fake hair club for men in the "Lagers" thread on Pffugee that point to shadowthief.

    I posted a poem about the accident that I was in and caught no end of shit for the DUI from "Veronica the Viking," who I had previously outed (along with Byron) as a ST sock.

    I deleted the dairy, which further infuriated "Veronica" who jumped all over Peeder's ass for it. "Her" tone about the dUI was very hectoring, MADD moralistic like, just as in the "lagers" thread by the HCfM knock off. I also recall Veronica saying that she had cached the deleted dairy, and this HCfM basically said I needed to post it or he would.


    Course, it could be any of the FSZ blogmaids, up to and including HRM, Matty Jack.

    Whatever, dude. Post away. I dont think I copied that dairy so it would be helpful to have it reposted. I did manage to copy the PFF dairies that were meaningful to me, which were very few, to be truthful. Less than ten. Most of may dairies are just excuses to have a thread. My thread work is very underrated. IMHO.

    The Colbert schtick at that dinner was the best TV since approximately the season Rodney Dangerfield was a regular on the "Dean Martin Show."

    I think that was 1968, or wtf.

    I watched it several times, paying close attention to the audience reaction, which was mostly grim and silent. I remember Scalia cracking up. I also got the distinct impression that Bush didnt really care either. He seemed unruffled. Laura was pissed. Memorable moment. I blogged a bit about it.
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    1. 5/14/2009 7:45 PM donkeytale wrote:
      Yeah, Sock Rat, think about it this way. Here I am discussing the subtle intricacies of shadowthief's genius with someone who may very well be Shadowthief.

      Gebius.
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    2. 5/14/2009 10:49 PM socrates wrote:
      Thanks for that. I've learned not to jump to any quick conclusions about anyone. Hey, I watched you back, when folks were making unsubstantiated claims about yourself.

      Remember the Thunderdome thread at FSZ? Sure you do. That was the one where you yet again confronted Jack for lying about Dave. It is no longer available through cache. I copied and pasted it from my desktop. Yet again, we have won. Dave's memory has won. The KosKops have lost.

      Also, there are a few people starting to pick up the pace at Laura's place and sticking the fork into FSZ's credibility. Dave would be proud of us all.

      Yeah, anything you have copied, especially thread comments, would be great to read. Please copy and paste that lost stuff, if you can.

      I've always had a problem with MADD. Hey, yeah, drunk driving is a bad thing and is very dangerous, but MADD takes it too far, imho.

      It would be just like a political operative/KosKopper to attack like that. There's a couple words to describe this kind of thing, mendacity and hypocrisy. Like that Armando dude has been the worst troll in history, the actual historic troll so to speak, yet there he was, the king of all trolls acting as trollhunter.

      Dave was fighting precisely for people like us. The UGOG/KosKops picked the wrong dude to target for the hammerban.

      But how do we know ShadowThief was the Blogging Curmudgeon? I don't trust Curmudgette. MLW is falling apart at the seams.

      I know who you mean with your lager thread. It was as if your troll was reminding you of how he busted you in the past. Yeah, dude, that's the kind of leaps in reasoning I tend to make. You are starting to see that one must think like them to understand what they are up to. But when you get good at it, that is when they try to direct you into traps. If a find is too easy, beware.

      Colbert was truth to power, no less.

      PFFugee seems legit so far. The problem is eventually Laura will probably give up on that $15/month soapblox fee, and the whole thing will go down the memory hole. If I did something like that and quit, I'd try to at least find some way of letting ads be placed on the thing, so the stuff could last forever.

      Dude, you may find this strange to hear, but you are a trollbuster. You did it when Jack went gangsta style on DFQ. You did it again with Jack in the Thunderdome thread. I know it was started by a Diogenes something, but oh well, you can check it out. That dude started the thread and Jack showed up right on schedule, then me, then you asking if I'd seen what he deleted concerning Dave. Then you were really cool going after Lauren S.

      If Laura at Pffugee is on the up and up, FSZ will not be able to pull the same crap, what they did to all us other victims including Dave Weintraub.

      We done good. :)

      http://pffugeecamp.com/diary/107/thunderdome-saved-and-jsr-exposed

      Maybe that's what our movie should be about. We'll get Bill Murray and Harold Ramis. Instead of Ghostbusters, it'll be called Trollbusters.
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      1. 5/15/2009 11:39 AM donkeytale wrote:
        From Teachings of the Buddha, a book I stole from a hotel room in Little Tokyo, where it resided in the drawer next to the Gideon's Bible until I liberated it in order to share its wisdom with the whiteysphere, a group of delusional souls so badly in need of basic education about the nature of reality and our relationship with it.

        And without it.

        From the unknown past, being conditioned by their own deeds and deluded by two fundamental misconceptions, people have wandered about in ignorance.

        First they believed that the discriminating mind, which lies at the root of this life of birth and death, was their real nature; and second, they did not know that, hidden behind the discriminating mind they possessed a pure mind of enlightenment which is their true nature.

        When a man closes his fist and raises his arm the eyes see it and the mind discriminates it, but the mind that discriminates it is not the true mind.

        The discriminating mind is only a mind for the discrimination of imagined differences that greed and other moods relating to the self have created. The discriminating mind is subject to causes and conditions, it is empty of any self-substance, and it is constantly changing. But since people believe that this mind is their real mind, the delusion enters into the causes and conditions that produce suffering.

        A man opens his hand and his mind perceives it; but what is it that moves? Is it the mind, or is it the hand? If the hand moves, then the mind moves accordingly, and vice versa; but the moving mind is only a superficial appearance of mind: it is not the true and fundamental mind.

        Fundamentally, everyone has a pure clean mind, but it is usually covered by the defilement and dust of worldly desires which have arisen from one's circumstances. This defiled mind is not the essence of one's nature: something has been added, like an intruder or even a guest in a home but not its host. [reprinted with permission granted by
        Bukkyo Dendo Kyokai, Tokyo.]

        Who is that guest in our homes? Language, the learned societal understanding of the ordering and meaning of human sounds from which arise thoughts, communications, attitudes and desires, among other characteristics of the discriminating mind.

        Here is why politricks will never solve the problems of man. Here is why human history, no matter how much the "circumstances and conditions" may change, moves in a self defeating circle.

        Or "cycles" if you want to prettify the speech.
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        1. 5/15/2009 2:35 PM socrates wrote:
          You know about the orphaned elephants of Africa? All the daddies got poached, and the youngins without the father figures lost their ways and became elephant trolls. Perhaps in some twilight zone way, you have become my papa elephant.

          I was reading Shadowthief at Booman Tribune. There was a thread on slander, and it referred to when {2005ish} the "progressive" blogs were coordinating strategies to not piss off advertisers {i.e. how to enforce censorship}.

          I couldn't see what ShadowThief wrote to get banned. I also don't necessarily accept that all the ShadowThiefs have been the same dude. Could the original's username have been stolen? With PFF deleted, how the frig can one make any sense of this tangential yet fascinating rabbit hole?

          I don't necessarily agree with what appears to be your outright cynicism towards the possibilities for positive social change. I do see your fundamental, eastern philosophical point, that what is said today was probably spoken about in other historical cycles.

          Yet, don't we have to at least leave open the chance for some utopia? Don't we at least have to try to save the planet?

          Paulo Freire said that the difference between ourselves and animals is that we can reflect on history and change the world to what it ought to be. I think part of the freeper mentality is to maintain a stance that the world is a jungle, that it's survival of the fittest.

          I truly believe that "terrorism" is one of the biggest lies being foisted on us. The Cold War ran its course, and the man had to come up with another scapegoat to maintain inequality and war.

          We are examples of the scapegoating that goes on in the blogosphere. Just think of how the implications of the UGOG/KosKop files were not plastered on the net in comparison to when Markos Moulitsas got busted telling his underling, brownshirted, fake progressives to "starve the oxygen" out of the Armstrong payola scandal.

          MSOC has yet again failed to take it up a notch and become a true hero. Perhaps she was the perfect patsy for the blogospheric ptb's to manipulate over the years. She is kind of like our version of Edward G. Robinson. Reminder that dude? Since you were born in 1887, I know you do.

          Anyway, from memory, that duderino used to be all over the man. Then the ptb's crushed him. Instead of going Mandela style, the guy broke down and kissed the ptb's arses, so I think he could get a bit part in some mega epic starring Elizabeth Taylor.

          I think we need to go down swinging and with dignity, like Biko did. Yet, that's easier said than done, because on the net it seems we are constantly being prodded into having emotional outbursts borne out of the frustration that there truly is no freedom of speech and association.

          I think we need to be like Levar Burton in Roots, when he refused to say the name given by the slavemaster. There is a beauty to the truth that the man cannot touch. Stick that in your pipe and smoke it.

          I am not a sockrat. I am a human being.
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          1. 5/15/2009 5:15 PM donkeytale wrote:
            I'm not a donkkkeyturd, I'm a human bean, but I fail to see much difference in the grand scheme of things. Its like what you said in one of these comments recently, about how I'm there to stir up the fight but then leave and let others battle it out, or wtf? Something along those lines. This led to my Buddhistic contemplation. You are correct that I have moved on, I have stated as much, I'm not invested in blogging as a "battle" a "movement" to "win" or to "loose". I'm pretty much here to experiment with myslef.

            I don't view these things perhaps as you would expect that I do. Like you, I dont hold grudges or dislike for any blognalities, even the ones I excoriate on a regular basis. I am not bitter about whats happened. I see the possibilities as endless. I can roll with the flow and end up fine, for my purposes, which are quite modest in any event.

            The bloggame got shaken up and we, the pieces, ended up on the floor behind the carpet. OK, so we play twister now. See? I like it all so far. I dont miss reading the wit and wisdom of the FSZ FSZ KKKrowd at all. I did crosspost my buddha piece there, for some reason. I posted it at Eatme's place too. I ragged her a bit more about you, too, btw. Especially pffunny is that she is posting a big MLW META diary, too. Arent you somehow jumbled up in all that kkkrap with diane w?

            See. First they rag you about what you do and then, sooner or later, they do the same thing theyselves. And you laff at it all, them and you both.

            And then the circle repeats.

            Only a weaker brew. Rolling Rock to our Adventinus double bock dark wheat ale. (a German asskicker at 9.5% alcohol that goes down as smoothly as a pair of red silk panties across a stiff dingus.

            Looks like we got us some game 7s, but I'm loosing interest because of the poor competitive quality of the games. All pretty much hometown blowouts. Hopefully, the next round will get more competitively interesting. None of these teams seems particularly strong when compared to the best of recent decades.

            Have you heard from the FBI yet?
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            1. 5/15/2009 8:58 PM socrates wrote:
              I never said you stir things up on purpose and then leave. I'm not sure why you just said that. I have seen a few others make that comment. Try not to make statements like this, unless you are sure. Best even to present a link. This is how people start mistrusting each other. Like when you wrote that you were banned by DKos before the 2004 election, but it turns out you were still there well into 2005. I rationalised that one, as if your memory was just off.

              Did you see the post by Mattes at FSZ? "She" made it seem like she was you. I screenshot it, just in case it gets deleted. That's fried behaviour. That reminds me of when EatMeWithMilk went a snitching to the FBI for using the googler and finding out that she wants low tax rates for the very rich. Did you see that link she gave where she went ballistic on somebody? Check this out for laughs.

              http://www.pajiba.com/pajiba_love/pajiba-love-051309.php

              No word from Fox and Mulder yet. If they do show, which I kind of doubt, this could be my big break. I have a tv reporter "friend," and this is the kind of stuff he gets into. He's done reports on all this kind of stuff, where Big Brother starts getting all up in our faces. To go public, all I need to do is change my phone number. The only reason I don't reveal it anyway is for a few reasons. One, my name is meaningless. Two, there's no point in doing that. I bet tons of these so-called real names, not talking reporters or people in media, etc., but regular people who sign off with their alleged real names- I don't buy it every time. Sometimes I even think some are more likely to be fakes, if they are shoving names and photos out there, and it seems they are trying to say hey look at me, regular guy here.

              You told cleverguy82 he sounded like me humour wise? No. There is only one me. And you are an astute man to get my sense of humour. I don't try to be funny all the time, and sometimes I am Mr. Serious too much, but heck yeah, I have my moments for good times. What can I say {/JJ Evans projection}.

              Thanks for watching my back with MSOC. Of course she has nothing on me. Could it be that her husband checked out some of the links I came up with, like the Marisacat/HRH thing, and the son of Betty Crocker went, "I'm getting the heck out of here." It's true what I said about her posting with a salty sailor potty mouth and not being a good influence.

              MSOC told me to go to Diane Z or V or whatever last initial she is going with these days. Diane is a clone of MSOC, but one is the "Jooos" run for the hills and the other is the Palestinians hill time. All these places have been fake havens from the other soapbloxes. Booman and MSOC acted like Kos refugees were welcome, but then they tell them to pipe it down with the truth about Kos. Laura at Pffugee is turning out to be a fake haven for FSZ, imho.

              I agree the hoops is getting stale. Denver might be the only hope for some poetic justice. We are the Big 2 of "historic trolls." We are the anti-Armandos.
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              1. 5/16/2009 4:03 AM donkeytale wrote:
                OK. Point taken on the miscommunication leading to friction. But isnt this inevitable whether blogging or talking face to face?

                Communication is the problem. What do you think Buddha means, anyway?

                "Hell is Other People" is another way of putting it.

                Except that "hell is us."

                I posted Buddhas rant to remind myself not to take the words so seriously.

                Words are not the essence.

                Thoughts are not the essence.

                Life is not the essence.

                Being is not the essence.

                All these things are essential, but they are not the essence.

                Understanding the natural order is more important than most people realize. Without natural perception we cannot attain the proper perspective. And we are poisoned before we are old enuff to understand what they are doing to us. We are inundated from without and completely conditioned before we can walk or talk.

                To uncondition oursleves is the first step. The rest follows naturally, including the solutions to our historical dilemmas.

                Without enlightened souls first, there can be no solutions, political or social, that will stick. Without enlightenment, we are stuck in the cycle. Good. Evil. Wash. Rinse. Spin. Repeat.

                Bet on it.

                I havent a clue what you mean about mattes. She is impersonating me at FSZ?

                Eatme isnt worth the time. There is no there there. Gibberish mixed with narcissism en extremis. Talk about repetition!

                I would say that eatme ranks near the very top of non-enlightened soulz, all time. She's a sad case. I dont want to go over it all, her back story. The saddest part is that she is totally noncontemplative, non self conscious, like so many, who seem to believe the answers are to be found outside themselves, in politics, or debate, or wtf.

                Buddha, clearly, disagrees.
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                1. 5/17/2009 10:34 PM socrates wrote:
                  So Jack's Smirking Revenge can now be confirmed to either be a disinfo agent or a pathological liar.

                  http://www.pffugeecamp.com/diary/122/jacks-smirking-revenge-has-either-outed-himself-or-stolen-someones-identity

                  This was the guy who ran interference for the UGOG/KosKops by censoring Dave and then running him off the board while calling him a patsy.

                  From his recent comment, it is seen that he is denying being Jason Emerson from Hofstra. I have just posted his exact words confirming that he is the source of such an idea. There is something very fishy about this, and I humbly feel that I have him on the ropes.

                  Pinche Tejano also has been busted thanks to yourself, and he is trying to brush that off and turn things into a divide and conquer based on homophobia. Yawn.

                  There are certain usernames in which it is pointless to debate. Those are two of them.

                  I guess I was wrong about Mattes making it seem she was you, but she could have worded her post better.

                  I'm done worrying about MSOC. There is now obviously a dearth of decent posters left at MLW to keep going back to read too often.

                  As for buddhism and eastern philosophy, I am with you on promoting it. I take it the point you are making is akin to that we can't help others or the world until we are right with ourselves.

                  There does appear to be the spiritual to go with the material. Of course, it is impossible to put great truths into words. But I think it has been noble of you to try. A bit of spirituality is missing in America. Perhaps with the economic downturn, we Americans will start to return to having some semblance of values.

                  A good guy to emulate might be Krishnamurti. He could kind of see how any type of false authority or discipline leads us down the path of illusion. Perhaps this is why the blogospheric powers have an utter disdain for independent thought. The fascist tendencies are on the rise on forums.

                  In my first diary at MLW, I gave some props to Erich Fromm. One of the people actually had the nerve to diss him. Erich Fromm has had some inspirational works concerning our fear of freedom.

                  I've kind of a headache after watching the Celtics fall apart. I'm a bit bitter, because I feel they truly had a decent shot at grinding out a championship. I'm a bit upset with Doc Rivers for not trying to utilise Tony Allen and Bill Walker, while going to the Big Two too much which tired them out. I am also seething, because I don't understand why Kevin Garnett has been sitting on the bench the whole time, as if he could return. I felt like he either should have played today or had gotten the surgery weeks ago.

                  I guess Commissioner Stern is happy. I dislike Stan Van Gundy but will root for Orlando. Ultimately the only team I can stomach winning is Denver. Perhaps it is almost a given that Cleveland will win it all. It will be interesting to see if LeBron ends up leaving the Cavs when his contract expires. I'll lose some respect for him, if he does.

                  Peace out.
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                  1. 5/18/2009 11:35 AM donkeytale wrote:
                    I'm familiar with Krishanmurti. I read his biography and some of his schtick.
                    Good call. He's an excellent person to study, both words and life.

                    I first learned of him through Henry Miller. See? We can learn all sorts of things from all sorts of different people. Who would ever have thot they would find an Indian spiritualist through the work of an Amerikkkan hedonist and sex maniac?

                    I know, I know, Henry was more than that. But not his known image...the point is, why do people want so much to cut themselves off from anyone's words? Seems like a very shortsighted/ignorant thing to do.

                    Pinche Tejano and Jack are OK. They are just kidz, still learning but more importantly, trying to too much to prove themselves. Relax, men. Hang loose. All will be revealed to you in time.

                    If you stay open to the delightful surprises that can come only if you stay open.

                    So many shut themselves off, seal the door tight, mentally and emotionally, at such young ages.

                    Its too their own detriment. Chasing after fallen idols.

                    So both our teams are out. Well, I dont live and die with a team, I've moved around way too much to still be attached to a sports team and I'm not really a fan in that sense, anyway.

                    I mean, I was, when I was like 8.

                    I lived in Boston for a number of years and I really enjoyed the sports scene there, as Ive said before, I was a regular caller into Klif and Klaff, and I even managed to cop a free ticket to game 7, Eastern Conference Semis in (1982?), the year Bird finally got over the hump, as the Celts roared back in the 4th qtr from a 13 point deficit to beat the 76ers of Erving, Cheeks, Dawkins, et al at the buzzer.

                    Cornbread Maxwell....GREATNESS! what an inside game! Seems like he went to the line 15 times per. Too bad his body couldnt take the punishment a power forward endures. Maxwell was a string bean, as well as cornbread.

                    A sublime player, he took his unheralded college team UNC-Charlotte all the way to the Championship game the year Marquette and Al Maguire won it all, before he won it all at the NBA level too, with the Celts.

                    The quality of the competition has been horrible so far this year. That is a problem. None of these teams seems very formidable compared to even teams of recent years.

                    Is it that the players can bypass college and turn pro? Since many of the very best players in the NBA took that route its hard to say, but maybe the effect of these players not playing in college has weakened the level of top competition to the point that not enough great players are being developed overall to stock the NBA with as much talent as in years past. Hard to say.

                    Course, I hate the Lakers like everybody, especially Kobe and Phil. Both terribly overrated, but both still very good, almost great at what they do.

                    I'll be pulling for Denver.

                    Lebron is the mon. A cut above Kobe and anyone else currently. No doubt. But his team? Like Jordan, he will dominate a weak league.
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                    1. 5/18/2009 11:22 PM socrates wrote:
                      People say you are apolitical, but I think that is part of their DKos stockholm syndrome.

                      I'm not sure why you are backing off of Tejano and Jack. At best, they are liars. At worst, they are paid to post. Jack seems to have put aside the paid angle by coming clean. But that still doesn't explain all the lies he has posted. It definitely doesn't explain why he has never moderated Lauren S.

                      It's like you said at the new PFF; To be a decent admin, one must show a good faith effort to be impartial. If myself and DavidByron were banned for being so-called troublemakers, then why wasn't Lauren S? Jack says that now none of us are banned, but I think like you say he merely regrets losing creative/independent voices to PFF v.2.

                      Great point also on the socks of sock puppets making the rounds, and how they can't live and let live. They are really going out of their way to try to shut me down. They have never learned the lesson of DKos, that subjective moderating and herd bullying is not democratic.

                      One needs to stay as honest as possible on the net. If Jack's excuse is that he's a prankster, that is not good enough. He has never apologised or explained his extensive lying. Ok, this is how I see it. He is either a poser at best or is some kind of narc type from High School but for the blogs.

                      He truly did cover for the UGOGs. Maybe he has been snookered by Cometman, who must have divulged his own personal info to Fingerit or one of the UGOGs? Jack has said he wasn't really protecting himself but others. Yet, I don't like what he did to you, DFQ, Noom, and Eric S.. I don't like what he did to me and DavidByron.

                      I actually tracked down his Hofstra email and asked whether he was an admin for a soapblox blog. I got one email from "Jack's Smirking Revenge" telling me his name wasn't Jason. I got another one with a whole different name but which lined up with Jason Emerson. Say like for example, your address could be DnTAle@yahoo yet also be for a Donald Taleford, if you get my drift. I got two emails. One from JSR's email saying he wasn't Jason. The other was from the Hofstra address but Jack changed the name to still fit the address. He said he'd been hacked. Understand? So basically Jack is a liar. He outright makes things up. He's a troll. His word means nothing.

                      Tejano has no proof at all that he was the one at the WTO protest. He also says he was a big reason for Ron Paul having so much success on the internet. The Ron Paul phenomenon has had much to do with an increase of tinfoil by association. I think you're starting to come around on some of this. You checked out one link on Willis Carto. There is a catchphrase called right woos left. Now we see the same stale script being played out with TocqueDeville's banning from DKos. Is Michael Moore next in line for the hammerban?

                      Henry Miller is good. Cornbread's now doing Celtic's radio. You're right about LeBron. He picked John Naismith to be the coach of his all-time team. Go Nuggets.
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                      1. 5/18/2009 11:49 PM socrates wrote:
                        Oops. James Naismith, the inventor of hoops.

                        That was uber-cool of Lebron to pick him as the coach. I like when rich athletes at least have the integrity to see the big picture. That's why we Celtic fans will probably be cool with this group, even if we end up with only one Big Three title, while Big Al Jefferson could end up as an all-time great. KG, the Truth, and Jesus Shuttlesworth, three aging hall of famers with no rings, in their first year together won it all. That was historic.

                        I wish KG could chill with the trash talk, but I guess you can't teach old dogs new tricks. And Doc, please stop driving these guys into the ground with too much playing time and start developing the bench.

                        It'd be nice to have a solid chance of getting back to the mountain top. But you gotta keep those guys to 30-35 minutes a game.

                        And to the Laker fans, stop counting those Minneapolis Laker titles as your own.

                        Yeah, Kobe is great, but he is too selfish, and I'm not sure what's up with the rape allegation. Maybe the only difference between him and Tyson were their reputations.

                        Phil Jackson has also never had to work too hard to win his titles. I'd hate to see him tied with Red Auerbach. Red didn't just coach those teams, he put them together.

                        Also, the Celtics were the first NBA team to field an all African-American line-up. And the Celtics were not racist in the 80s. Those white dudes had skills. That's the thing about Celtics' Pride. It's got nothing to do with colour. It has to do with teamwork and family.

                        Yes, you said before that too many 18 and 19 year olds are going into the NBA throwing off the natural supply and demand with the drafts.

                        Such players also miss out on learning teamwork. They were probably dominant in high school and the missing college years show unless one is a KG or Lebron.

                        Kendrick Perkins is another guy who skipped college, but man, he's a really nice, thoughtful guy. I hope his shoulder holds up, and he sticks around a long time. Unlike Dwight Howard, he knows how to block a shot and redirect it to take possession. That was a Bill Russell skill.

                        I was amazed how mediocre Howard is on offense, if you can keep him three feet or more away from the hoop. Though, he is a beast in regards to getting rebounds and slamming them home.
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                        1. 5/19/2009 2:19 AM donkeytale wrote:
                          I find nothing in Lebron not to like and admire, at least in his public persona, and somehow it seems real, but then again so did Jordan at first. I like those lamely goofy commercials he does, too, playing the different roles.

                          My comment above wasnt so much that the high school-to-the pros-starz are hurting themselves as much as they are leaving behind some good college players who dont fully develop their game because they are not exposed to the Kobes, Garnetts, Lebrons, et al, at the college level either as opponents or teammates. This may be why there are so few teams with more than one or two good players on the roster. Houston took the Lakers to seven games and there really isnt even a star quality player on the entire team. Yao is a celebrity, but his b-ball accomplishments still dont amount to much more than "good," if that.

                          Artest is the closest, and he's also "very good" but not great. Battier, ditto. Great defensive players, adequate with the ball.

                          I'm glad that Matty Jason came clean. I wonder why he didnt do so sooner, if the issue all along as it seems to be, was that he wasnt getting any respect?

                          I dont carry grudges or even care much about Jack and PT at this point. They have their own crosses to bear and throughout all this turmoil it is they who have made themselves look consistently immature and kinda dumb, but maybe since I'm older than you I'm abit more lenient wrt the follies of youth.

                          If Jack is Jay then I have no problem with his schtick aw Jay. If he's lying again, well, that would indicate serious issues, but so what? they are his, not mine, and you know, that karma thing always comes around to bite. Same with PT. He's really a talented writer, but you know, the need to prove yur a bigshot is common for the young. I remember being the same way. I grew out of it after I discovered being a big shot in relaity comes with tons of baggage, like cloying needy people who are always looking to the big shots to bail them out of their petty dilemmas.

                          I'm not the type who stays interested teh same schtick for as long as you perhaps. I see that JayJack has already damaged himself pretty badly.

                          He's lost just about every single decent content provider he gained thru the PFF/FSZ exchange. His blog is very dull, hardly any dairies getting posted at all and even fewer that I have seen of interest. And you will notice, it is still the Meta there driving any interest at all among the few remaining diehards, despite teh fact that the stated goal was to get rid of the whack jobs, reduce the internally focused meta and get back to politics.

                          How do you say "boring" in Chinese, Mr. Yao?
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                      2. 5/19/2009 2:57 AM donkeytale wrote:
                        I'm not apolitical but I have been around enough politics to know that politics is a very weak brew for solving problems. Necessary, sure, but people invest way, way, way too much hope in politics, then they always get disappointed. Atheism is a religion. Political junkies are religious fanatics. Civic religion. Its all the same impulse, so why do they want to aim their religious impulses so low?

                        Someone recently said to me that politics is good for solving short term human problems. Thats about right. The problem of course is that the real problems of mankind are decidely not shortterm. If the answer to the real problems are ever to be found it will require a whole lot of personal enlightenment before a political solution will be found and enlightenment is so clearly missing in....all of us, especially the grimly political.

                        Frankly, I find politicians and people who work in politics to generally be extremely mediocre. Thats why when an Obama comes along about once every 100 years or so, someone who is so clearly more intelligent, world experienced and outside the usual box, people on all sides of teh spectrum freak out. Byron really cracks me up. Obama has that dude turned completely upside down and inside out. He's totally lost in the wilderness of his own delusions now. Just as bad maybe worse than Limbaugh and his farrightards. Ditto fairleft. These guyz are disoriented at this point, they are like JFK Jr flying over the ocean in the dark. They cant tell where the sky stops and the sea begins.

                        RIOTOUS!

                        I have long been aware of the phenomenon you talk about regarding the right/left clone dance. See, I know lots of right wingnutz here in Texas and if you sat them in a room with Fairleft and Byron and only let them talk about Obama they would all get along famously. Perfect agreement right down the line.

                        The right woos left meme is always fresh because of the Nazis and the Russkies circa WWII.

                        This would happen here too, if the left and right ever got together. The right are ruthless, rich and more guns and ammo. The Left, or what passes for the left in this country is quite sad, if the whiteysphere is any indication. I cant believe this is it. Dismal.

                        The only hope for this country is right down the middle. Obama knows this well, which is why he points his compass due north to work the middle. The Byrons and Fairlefts of the Left, if given half a chance, would push the middle straight back into Republikkkan arms.

                        Those two guyz are the perfect useful idiots the right woos, its a good thing they are wasting all their time blogging, where they cant do any real harm.
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                        1. 5/19/2009 8:00 PM socrates wrote:
                          Things have really changed here quickly.

                          I notice MLW is rebounding and PFF has quickly overtaken this place too, especially in terms of quality dairiests. You should really consider coming over and posting yur fine work at PFF>

                          Everybody is welcome there, even "regular guyz"
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    3. 5/15/2009 1:34 PM howardx wrote:
      dropping a line donk, enjoyed the lager diary. shadowthief/vickie was very MADD about drinking, i think you'll find a current fsz'er who displays the same tendencies.
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      1. 5/15/2009 4:53 PM donkeytale wrote:
        Thankee, thankkkee, good to hear from you Howard. So, you arent currently interacting on any of these fine blogs of the whiteysphere these daze?
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        1. 5/15/2009 5:34 PM howardx wrote:
          oh hell no, i pop in here to see what youre up to, thats how i heard about the lager diary but other than that im eschewing the dkos/pff/fsz/what the fuck ever scene. same old same old there. enjoying the baseball season so far, go dodgers!
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          1. 5/16/2009 3:24 AM donkeytale wrote:
            Yes, the Dodgers look very good so far. The lowly Texas Rangers are in first place too. I've been blogging less and following sports more. Sports watching bores, but I generally like the recaps they do on SportsCenter. I watch them over and over again, sometimes five repeats in a row.

            I guess I keep watching, expectinga different result.

            RIOTOUS!

            Go Dodgers. Too bad about Manny. I dont know why, but he's the only steroidal ball player of them all who have been exposed to date who I like, regardless....must be the dreadlocks and his overall attitude. Great karma fit for LA. In that respect, the steroids fit too. LA is nothing if not a juiced city.

            All the other busted ball players, I never liked as players or sports celebs. Especially Rafael Palmeiro. I dont know why, I have always strongly disliked that guy as a ball player. Hits for average, adds long ball in mid career via the roids, still never plays on a winner, and never really helps his team win either. Gets caught, wags his finger sanctimoniously at Congress, "I never took steroids".

            Whatever, Raffy.
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  • 5/16/2009 12:26 PM howardx wrote:
    manny was a bit of a blow but they have been doing good without him so its not too bad. barring some catastrophic late season breakdown i think we're playoff bound this season. bullpen could use some beefing up though.
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    1. 5/17/2009 10:02 AM donkeytale wrote:
      Well, baseball season starts for me as a fan around October, but I know one thing: the Dodgers have a great manager, and I recall that he was also one of if not the best color analysts in the game as well, from back in the day when he worked the Angels gamez on TV with Dick Enberg.

      When Torre became a manager in Atlanta and quickly turned the Braves fortunes around, I was not in the least surprised, because of my experience listening to him on TV.

      I know the game pretty well. Played it competitively all throughout Southern California childhood, from 59-71,
      my last organized experience being in the LA County Parks & Recreation Winter League playing for a local team at age 21, which was a collection of college players, just signed rookies, and other assorted good amateur players who still loved to play the game for fun on weekends.

      Personally, I believe there are certain events that transpire in history, seemingly unrelated, which change the course and direction irrevocably.

      One of those was the Dodgers leaving Brooklyn for LA.

      Another was Michael Jackson's plastic surgery.

      Dont ask me why that is. It just is.
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  • 5/18/2009 4:42 PM howardx wrote:
    have you read the "illuminatus" trilogy by robert anton wilson?
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    1. 5/18/2009 9:06 PM donkeytale wrote:
      Are you talkin to me?

      If so, "no."

      But feel free to expalin why I should. And I mite.
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      1. 5/19/2009 12:08 PM howardx wrote:
        drugs sex and alternate history.

        thats why.
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        1. 5/19/2009 8:08 PM socrates wrote:
          Hmmm. You must be confusing me with soem other donkeytale. There have been a few different ones who have floated about from time to time. I consider it a tribute.

          I dont do drugs sex and alternate history.

          I perceive and point out inconsistencies, true. I'm fine with you pointing out mine, especially such momentous ones as you have found.

          There are no answers worth seeking in the whiteysphere.

          I just came to play whackkk a kkklown and let you have some pffun, too.
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          1. 5/20/2009 2:03 PM howardx wrote:
            this would have been more effective if you had been sharp enough to change your user name numbnuts.
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            1. 5/20/2009 5:54 PM socrates wrote:
              That wasn't me. It was someone trolling. There's another one above, where the person also tried to make it seem I am donkeytale. There is even a post by MattyJack, where he claims myself and DonkeyTale are the same person. But you keep going on attacking me like the others, if you want to. There's not much I can do to combat such things except with denials.

              I've emailed Antoinette about this.
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              1. 5/20/2009 7:28 PM howardx wrote:
                if people stopped attacking you how would you get your daily martyrdom fix?
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            2. 5/21/2009 6:03 AM donkeytale wrote:
              Its all part of the "nefarious" scheme at the Fascismo Zone, led by Smairking JayjeffJack and his 3 (remaining) stooges to "prove" that Socrates and I are the same poster. This is the tiredest schtick in the whiteysphere, except for I/P, which thankfully, doesnt seem to be appearing anywhere these daze.

              Someone also logged in at PFF as "Socrates" by adding an additonal space before the name. Laura whackkked that kkklown and several more popped up.

              Yawn.

              Rock on loosers! Watching people willfully leap into the selfmade fires of their own delusion is kinda sad, but it confirms that the whiteysphere is fried, as Sock Rat/DonkkkeyTurd would say. Well, charbroiled, in this case.

              It scarcely matters to me that they are saying I am Sock Rat and/or he is me. Their problem 100%. False thot breeds false action.

              Casting themselves into the eternal fires of delusion, these hungry ghosts and screaming demons ignore the karmic consequences at their own peril. They dont understand what they are doing (of course) to themselves in the process. But, the sooner they jump in the better for rest of us. Cleansing. Its all in the plan.

              More! More! More!

              This is why I love the whiteysphere!

              So, how do you feel about JeffJayJack Emerson's future career prospects?

              His growing body of fine work across the internet appears to have already ruled out a career in NY politricks.

              The UGOGs dont seem to be the forgive and forget and chuckle it off type. They have won. The Fascismo Zone has descended to the bottom and its all on record. Its a "community" now, Jake!

              RIOTOUS!

              OTOH, I see that I am on Larisa Alexandrovna's radar, which I must confess, adds a bit more tumescence than usual to my morning wood, just on her name alone.

              I'm already know to the FBI, BTW. I assisted them on some local political corruption cases. Leading the horse to water, so to speak, explaining the technical nuances of the business at hand to help them better understand an extensive bribery scam. White collar crime is very hard to penetrate and takes intensive long term investigation. Just getting up to speed on the "inside beisbol" took them years.

              They were given my name by a guy who was already helping them. Eventually, they won several convictions of local civilians and politricians, which was pretty cool because I have been the victim of fixed public bid rigging for years. I know exactly how it operates and who is behind it, but of course, the proof required to indict takes time. Four years in one case, three in another. Plodding and slow is faster than the speed of light by comparison. Thats why it is easy to see how the 9/11 guyz were not hampered at all, even tho they were on the FBI radar.

              I wish I had been a fly on the wall when the FBI was forced to handle MSOC's report against SOCK Rat.

              All MSOC achieved there was putting her own name on their radar, and not favorably, either. They hate peeps wasting their time on personal vendettas.
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              1. 5/21/2009 12:00 PM howardx wrote:
                i tend to ignore so crates so im not sure why msoc is going to the fbi about him, probably a mistake considering the well documented evidence of her, how shall i put it, "shaky" grip on reality.
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        2. 5/20/2009 12:25 AM donkeytale wrote:
          I'm there, dude.

          Altho I can take a pass on the "Alternative History" stuff, the other two are among my favorit topics of study.
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