Some issues to address

I hate to impose rules on this site, but I may have to due to abuse. Stick to the topic or I will have to delete comments-and you know who you are. I won’t tolerate hijacking of this site. The goal of the site is to expose rightwing conservatives and crooks in the business and political world.

I need progressive soldiers who are willing to help me expose these crooks publicly. This is what Dave wanted. I’m planning to take this campaign to the streets to expose a few people.

What I need from all of you is photos of these so-called “Tea Parties” across the nation. Extremist conservatives will attend, some with anti-Obama signs. I will post the racist signs on this blog.

Republicans will be asked to denounce these conservative hate fest. We are doing this in Dave’s memory. If he was here today, he would be there.

 

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  • 4/6/2009 5:30 AM donkeytale wrote:
    Thats rich. Did you receive the article I submitted to you? Dave posted lotsa stuff that I could see, including call outs of FSZ, sports stuff and more. These comments are totally in the context of dave, who was a conversational blogger.

    However, I would be pleased to depart now, no hard feelings. SO, later!
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  • 4/6/2009 8:17 AM socrates wrote:
    I'm gonna stick up for myself and DonkeyTale, because obviously we are the two most active. I take it from the tone of your post, Antoinette, that someone has emailed you with "information" about us. I have only recently met DonkeyTale. I believe that everyone is innocent until proven guilty.

    This guy, unless I am mistaken, used to be a frontpager at DKos. He was run off in 2005ish, apparently by Dana Houle.

    He has been accused of being a stalker, yet there is no proof to that claim. If it's there, I would like to see it. As for myself, if you indeed were contacted by the person I have in mind, she has claimed that I have made things worse through making many mistakes in my cyber sleuthing. Though when I have asked her for help or to point out where the truth is, she has not stepped forward.

    She also never made one post here, while Dave was still alive. She has made, however, over 600 posts at the Free Speech Zone Blog. This same person has advised me to give up blogging completely.

    If no one contacted you, then my radar for such a thing is way off. Or perhaps you are new to moderating.

    The correct thing to have done would have been to enter the two threads we have been active on and tell us to chill out.

    That you are saying we are hijacking the joint makes me believe that my instincts are correct.

    Dave was into sports. Both myself and DT were getting a bit into baseball. I see you even participated on Dave's A-Rod thread.

    We have also been doing what is referred to as Meta, something Dave was also involved in doing.

    I tried to participate and get dialogue going on the abortion/Coulter thread. I spilled my guts on it. No one interacted with my ideas.

    What I think you should realise is that both DT and myself are obviously two dudes who love to blog but who have been unfairly banned at a number of places. Dave may have quit DKos, but eventually they did ban him after taking away his trusted user status. Dave was all about exposing unfair banning practices as DKos.

    I was so happy to have met him. I started to share my story as Prepostericity, how Fingerit had gone after me, how Larisa Alexandrovna called me a stalker for simply asking tough questions about her reporting on Michael Connell and her blogging on the Speedway Bomber, Brett Kimberlin.

    Dave was taken aback, as Ms. Alexandrovna has always been affiliated with progressive news. I could track down Dave's quote, but he told me he felt I deserved the opportunity to state my case.

    I believe he would have wanted DonkeyTale to get that same opportunity.

    No one wants to hijack or discredit this website. Dt and myself are old-school hippies. We may be abrasive at times, a bit free-spirited to the point of being annoying, but I don't believe either of us is a detriment to the cause.

    Did DT submit an article? Why not try to work with him and give both of us a chance?

    DT, you are invited to participate at my humble forum. I can even kick the weather mitigation stuff down.

    {continued}
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    1. 4/6/2009 8:36 AM donkeytale wrote:
      I'm flattered, given how important the weather stuff is to you. No reason to kick anything down for me. Lets see how Antoinette responds. So far, she seems pretty grim, which is not a good thing, but who knows?

      I believe that she wants to follow her version of dave to the letter, which is a childish desire on its face.

      dave was dave. We are not dave. We are inspired by dave. Big diff.

      We are what they call 'free thinkers' meaning we wont have much luck with the fake pwoggie kkkrowd, who are not even "thinkers" at all, much less trying to qualify what type of thinkers they are. Blind followers of secularist dogma is what they are. No 'thinking' allowed, unless it conforms. Pyrrhiod.

      And so it goes. I did submit an article, but we'll see where it goes. Antoinette may not want to post it, since its about Jim Webb's cause to reform the criminal justice system. He's not a pwoggie, and criminal justice reform is not a pwoggie issue.

      Saving the Amerikkkan middle class mortgage, now thats a pwoggie issue! HUNDREDS marched on Wall Street, including little Matty Roth. Pinche Tejano decided on an extra cup of coffee after brunch and missed the excitin action.

      Criminals are not pwoggies.

      If northing else, at least we seemed to have driven Melvin off the FSZ, which is good for society as a whole. That guy was turning into a Nova Mob thug before our very eyes.

      ANd jack has shed his outer caterpillar and become "Matty Roth." No we have "Matty" and "commentman" two would be comic book superheroes, who just suck, in reality. Kinda like the "Great Amerikkkan Hero" redux. Two wittle boyz striving to stick their concave chests out. Or is their quivering lower lipz?

      Tantrum time!

      RIOTOUS!
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      1. 4/6/2009 9:18 AM socrates wrote:
        I think if she gave us one thread a week for our romper room time, then maybe we could shower, shave, and clean up once in a while for the real threads.

        I got the chance to spend time with lifers as an undergrad. Most of them did a crime of passion. We do have a problem with serial killers, but most of them, they made one mistake, yeah, as bad a mistake as one could make, but oh well.

        The criminal justice system is a big problem. They get the teens in there and turn them into criminals. I've seen one of those places too.

        And it would be good for Democratics if all ex-criminals get the chance to vote. I don't know the status on that one.

        But if someone did the time, and they get out, then shouldn't they have all rights restored. I know sex offenders need to be watched.

        FSZ is a strange one. I was into it at first because I thought Jack {Matty} was an anarchist. But the guys all on economics and banks.

        That dude Melvin, CometMan, Denalie, Lauren S, DeeDog, and especially Greenwood were all over me. It was inorganic. Especially that Greenwood. He knew a bit too much about me than what made sense.

        I'd give Antoinette a chance. I don't think she likes the sailor talk. I'm sure you could rein that in if you tried. I think she who should not be mentioned emailed her. But I don't think we should mention that person. When in Rome....
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        1. 4/6/2009 11:04 AM donkeytale wrote:
          Fuck that shit, dude. I'm not slaving away in some "open thread" ghetto.

          And why the shower ans shave? Dude. There is nobody here but us turkeys.

          Gobble. Gobbble. Gobble.

          We are the threads, as far as I can see? How can you hijack an empty thread?

          Cognitive dissonance.
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        2. 4/6/2009 12:19 PM donkeytale wrote:
          Any of this seem familiar to you, Mulder? Comes staright outta the PTB playbook:

          The basic nova technique is very simple: Always create as many insoluble conflicts as possible and always aggravate existing conflicts-This is done by dumping on the same planet life forms with incompatible conditions of existence-There is of course nothing "wrong" about any given life form since "wrong" only has reference to conflicts with other life forms-The point is these life forms should not be on the same planet-Their conditions of life are basically incompatible in present time form and it is precisely the work of the nova mob to see that they remain in present time form, to create and aggravate the conflicts that lead to the explosion of a planet, that is to nova-

          ---From The Ticket That Exploded
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  • 4/6/2009 8:36 AM socrates wrote:
    I'll keep this one short. I do think maybe DT got a bit too into sailor talk. I was gonna advise him to watch that. Otherwise, I feel he has made a contribution to this forum.

    DT, again, please consider joining up at my place. Perhaps it can give you a chance to regroup before figuring out a new home.

    I need to find one too. It is sad how MLW has kind of taken a tailspin.

    I can adapt the place, push the "weather mitigation" down. Uhm, we can try to find other progressives into letting it rip, to try to create a safe haven for free thinkers.

    You have to realise, Antoinette, that the blogosphere has turned sensitive, normal lefties into bitter, drifting pontificators.

    The more we get silenced, the more bitter we become.

    Maybe a solution could be to give us an open thread once a week? Maybe you could take another look at the article DT submitted?

    Hey, if no one emailed you with "warnings" about us, I apologise. There's just nowhere to go. HuffingtonPost is too big. It's like a campus with 500,000 students, and the "professors" do all the talking. FSZ is the proverbial sewer. Democratic Underground has the same debilitating atmosphere for free speech as DKos. If you don't believe me, check out Dave's journals there, where folks tried to run him off the website.

    DT, I hope we can continue our dialogue elsewhere or maybe here in an open thread someday. I think it would be cool for you to tell your blogging history. I've learned a lot about life from you. Hey, if you're a spook, you're one of the best in the business. But I don't think you are. I think you're misunderstood. I mean, friggen, you may have a few years on me, but I've seen the real free speech zone at Berkeley. I've seen some activism in my day. These are tough times for lefties.

    Of course Hannity and O'Reilly are bad news. But I want everyone to know that I am not some kind of agent provocateur or useful idiot. I sincerely believe that fake progressives are more dangerous to positive social change than the Limbaughs, the Coulters, the Hannity's.

    I could even try to focus more on those types. I just feel it is so obvious. If you hear of these types in Boston, then sure, I'll try to borrow a camera and help with the activism, Antoinette.

    My thing has been internet activism. And I admit how utterly frustrating that is, how it seems like nothing good can ever come out of it.

    I truly agree with what Dave wrote about Markos Moulitsas Zuniga, that he is bad news for the Democratic Party. I have a real disdain for fake lefties stealing the destiny of true lefties, progressives, and peaceniks.

    I'm sorry this post was longer than expected. Thanks for your time and consideration.

    And I meant that DT, if you're into it, the place I got is wide open, I can try to accomodate it away from its historical theme. I'd really like to hear more about your internet history, the good, the bad, and the ugly.... and the fun. Peace all.
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    1. 4/6/2009 8:45 AM donkeytale wrote:
      I wasnt a "front pager" at DKOS. Had I continued along in line I probably wouldve been in time. There were some who liked my schtick, including Armando (this was before he was a front pager and turned rabid) and Dem from CT, who was alwayd trying to get the loosers to engage with me.

      I used to trill C&J and remember BiPM once stating, AH, donkeytale you've trolled us well. I look forward to your development in the blogosphere...RIOTOUS! I wonder if he knows where I am today, about ready to be kicked off a fourth tier blog and take up residence on...a blog that is named after the 4th tier blog I am being kicked off of.

      AND THATS why I l;ove the whiteysphere.

      Thanks for the offer. Now I feel obligated to go over there and post something. You wont out me after I piss you off will you, sockrat?

      One of my articles, a dumb cut and paste, was promoted to the front page. It was eye opening. I started going more "out there" after that. The last thing I wanted
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      1. 4/6/2009 8:54 AM donkeytale wrote:
        The last thing I wanted was to be a front pager anywhere. I'm a back pager by style and inclination.

        I prefer to be one of the swamp rats instead of the pooties.

        WHo wuld want to "belong" in this group of loosers, anyway?

        Grouch was so wright on in his timeless assessment of stoopid white people social clubs, of which FSZ is nothing more than.

        Virtual Moose Lodge.
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      2. 4/6/2009 9:24 AM socrates wrote:
        Got a link on that? Maybe another link or two to the essays you're most proud of?

        Some places I got banned from, it's like a badge of honor. Ever hear of Kathaksung? There's even an entry for him in the urban dictionary. It's a wandering conspiracy theorist who never responds to direct interaction.

        Anyway, I called him out, then I called out this guy Cliff Carnicom for having close ties to neo-nazi Jeff Rense. Cliff Carnicom appears to be a spook.

        I've gone after rightwingers. It was fun going after Michael Rivero. He's another spooky dude. I noticed a bunch of these cats seem to be associated to NASA. Others like Hertzberg to the DoD.

        I think Alex Jones is a big problem too. Maybe that's something Antoinette might want to check out, how rightwingers creep into lefty blogs.
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        1. 4/6/2009 11:15 AM donkeytale wrote:
          I think they either "archived" or deleted the DKOS stuff of which I am most proud. Two were running movie scripts, featuring a hysterical MSOC, MAMZ trying to figure out how to make a buck off the site (this before he had figured it out).

          It was early, seminal work. I'm not too proud of any of it. Not ashamed of it either. This may surprise you, but I rarely if ever read my own back pages and I never go to DKOS. I find that blog boring as shit, about FSZ level at this point, A blog is only as good as its threads, IMHO. Most all the dairies suck to one degree or another. FSZ threads are gettin more DKOS like by the day....thats because they are down to like 4 kos kops, of whom Lauren S is the most prolific, and her stuff is pure Kos Kop redendancy in spades.

          So you think Susan Something is kkkreepin around behind our backs trying to get us banned from here, do you?

          Pffunny, there was a time when the "Townhouse" memeo was a big outrage, proving that bloggers like MAMZ worked and corrdinated content along their email back channels, hidden from the public.

          Now, it seems, all bloggers trade emails behind the scenes. Pity. You cant trust anybody.

          Except me. I email nobody. I'm friendz with nobody and, elieve it or not, enemiez with nobody neither.

          Oh, they may hate me, or wtf, for ruining their delusions, but thats the oppo of enemy. Real friends tell you when you shave greene spinach stuck between yur teeth.
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      3. 4/6/2009 9:38 AM socrates wrote:
        Ip's don't mean anything. They often don't even give the right geography. There's something called tor where people can even spoof their area. There are proxies. The only time the ip's are good, if they lead to military. What one can do is check how often images are being downloaded, get a record of how many visits through that. For me to check ip's, I need to be there in real time and sign in. I'm good at codes for posting. I figured out youtube code, that's about it.

        I really got good with the googler, taking screenshots, saving web pages, researching open source info. I'm not sure what Jack was on about when he said Fingerit and Bouldin figured out his personal info. I'm skeptical of Jack/Matty. I don't think he nor Lauren S are who they portray themselves as.

        I only outed one ip. And I only did that because I got BradBlog to confirm it. And that was after the ip led to a forum where the ip's are displayed. I basically got lucky. I don't even check them.

        The claims Lauren S made about me were crazy, not a shred of truth to them. Then FSZ went down. It was suspicious timing. I was kicking her ass in debate. It's like I said before. First they ignore you, then they mock you, then you fight back and win, then they delete you or cybersmear.

        I'm more like a Dave kind of outer. If someone comes onto the radar, and they're not 'regular guys', then they need to be investigated. Like Kos.

        Or like Fingerit. There's a picture of him from the NY Times. But you can only see his back. He's straightening out his friend's tie for his wedding with some Russian babe he met on a forum. He's some fancy bigwig.

        I saw a picture of his Dad Irvin or oops, I think Irwin. the Fingerit are high society. Little wonder why he looked down on Dave. Dave was the kind of guy to chill out with, play some texas hold 'em, watch a football game. Man, Dave would be one of those rare lawyers where you'd know you were lucky to have him, not cutting some deal then going to lunch with the prosecutor. I really believe Dave would have become Mayor someday. It's very sad what happened. He was an incredible person, someone with incredible integrity. He was a great member of Generation X.

        Dave was awesome. God bless his soul.
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        1. 4/6/2009 1:04 PM donkeytale wrote:
          dave may have been a great guy to "hang out" with but your schtick about it is, like, krackkkin me up.

          RIOTOUS!

          Irwin Fingerit????? Thats a guyz name???No Tschitskes? I dont know about MajroFlaw being a cool guy at all, but his dad has a cool name.
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        2. 4/6/2009 7:44 PM donkeytale wrote:
          I tried to login at your site, but it was, uh, asking me to many qwestians dude, like your selling my data to some fucking ip address harvesters. And there at the bottom of the page, I see

          Marijuana Legalization to Be Rolled Out as Part of Federal Criminal Justice Reform?


          These are important days in the late stages of the Grate Amerikkkan Experiment in Banana Republicanism. There exists a window of opportunity created by the complete meltdown of the good ol boy network of kkklueless Republitard white guyz, circa 2006-2008. Now is the time for reformers to heal the most egregious social justice wounds of the post Reagan era: healthcare reform, financial markets re-regulation, more overall transparency/accountability in government, and last but certainly not least:

          Senator Fightin’ Jim Webb (D-Virginny) has introduced legislation to begin the mammoth and even more mammoth politically difficulteth task of comprehensively overhauling the most inhumane criminal justice system in the history of the almost-free world. If that much alone isn’t enuff to get you to shake off your stoooopid white guy torpor, rise up off yur pearly white butt and outside into some type of something resembling action, even if your ‘action’ consists of mailing a single one paragraph form letter of support to your congress dipshit, then consider this effort from a more self-interested perspective:

          Drug policy is on the table.Marijuana tax revenues sure look good right about now to a growing number of sensible lawmakers who, if they here from their sensible dope smoking yet civic-minded citizens, or from those whose loved ones have needlessly been locked up for committing a nonviolent drug offense, they may actually do the sensible thing and pull the trigger for a vast alternative source of tax revenue, even as the grapple with the moral issues of allowing the plebes like us to catch a buzz whenever.

          A buzz, I scarcely need add,with mellowing, healing and peaceful side effects for society as a whole. Marijuana legalization is the number one medical, moral, civil wrights, humanistic and ethical as well as financially healing issues of our time.

          Bet on it.

          And comprehensive prison reform is not a slam dunk. The issue will require vocal manifestation of the people’s will by the people expressing their will in a substantive manner in physical reality in order to counteract the intense big money lobbying efforts of the PTB at the hospitality suite level of the playing field.

          The prison industrial complex is as ominous as any other other greedy corporate fed interest group in this dubiously grate nation of ours. [end part 1]
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          1. 4/6/2009 8:50 PM socrates wrote:
            It's just a forum. I made a test username last week {now deleted- I don't have sock puppets}, to test the permissions for members. I saw that page you're talking about. That's got nothing to do with me. I clicked no on all the options. Once someone registers, I get an email, then I activate the username.

            But, hey, if you're scared to sign up at the forum, or don't want to, just say it. No need to go Lauren S on me. Though I sense that was you just needling me, like with the "Sock Rat" thing.

            Your hypocrisy has thrown me for a loop. Irwin is a great name, but you have a problem with Melvin? Just kidding.

            Uhm, I'm gonna try to respond in just this one post.

            I don't want to mention the person's name, because that wasn't the point. I don't want to initiate a he said, she said. But, the way Antoinette phrased this thread, I can't help but wonder if this is what happened.

            When I first started out posting on DFQ, FSZ, and DKos/UGOG, this person told me I was making mistakes, making things worse. I felt like an ass, or is that a donkey? So I decided to quit. But one of the things that bonds people like us, is that we never quit. Blogging to us is like smoking cigarettes. Good luck quitting.

            So then Abbeysbooks was into posting at FSZ, not that she is into that forum. So I figured what the heck, I'll go back.

            Then we decided to start the new blogspot, davefromqueens2. I invited what's her name. Uhm, it was going pretty good. What's her name was writing a fair bit on one thread. Then she took another swipe at me for getting so much wrong. I asked her, please, can you tell me where, can you help fix any errors? She then asked how much I'd pay her for that. I then figured oh well, I guess she's just burnt out from everything.

            It was probably when we were first interacting at FSZ, that it was pointed out to me how evil you are. I then went to the googler in search of all your stalking posts. I found none.

            I then publically questioned why this person wrote over 600 posts at FSZ and zero at this website. That pissed her off. Instead of responding on the blog, she chastized me, and I then deleted the whole thing. And I hate to delete anything. Unlike Jack/Matty, I'd rather retract or clarify any brain cramps.

            That was around when I got into grilling you here for not supporting Dave at FSZ. But we needn't recap that. It's clear that you think the UGOG meta was fruitless. I disagree. Can't folks agree to disagree anymore?

            I just feel like at any point these posts are gonna be deleted. If you don't want to create the safety valve, then in all likelihood, we will lose contact for good. That's ok. Whatever you want. But you can't say I didn't try to work through things.

            Yes, I think Antoinette got an email telling her how bad we are, how we get so much wrong.

            I think Antoinette just doesn't have any forum background. I think her heart is in the right place, and that this other person has tweaked her into shutting down our dialogue.
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            1. 4/6/2009 9:08 PM donkeytale wrote:
              Cant say I disagree with much of what you post. I still have no frokkkim kkklue regarding these shady characters you always referencve, but I am agreeable to concede t5o you whatever points you wish to make about anybody at any time, including me, here, now or forever.

              Froykkk it, who cares?
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              1. 4/6/2009 9:33 PM donkeytale wrote:
                meant to say "the drinks trollye is verboten, orders of der fuerherocity her own slef, Frau Tale. She's trying to save my life for some reason I havent quite ciphered yet. When I do I'll be sure to let you know at my new blogging home,

                "All Aircraft have fallen from the Sky in my Dreams"

                RIOTOUS!
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            2. 4/6/2009 9:20 PM donkeytale wrote:
              I'm confused here. What blog in your vast media empire am I being recruited for? You aska lot of qwestians which make me highly suspicious of you...like my "history". I've read my share of spy novels, I tell you... I know how that game works. It requires a drinks trolley.

              The drinks trolley is verboten. I think I'll choose your forum if you dont mind. "All Aircraft are not involved." I like it. Seems open ended like the sky we spend so much time looking into.

              RIOTOUS! Just remmeber, if the CIA asks you any qwestians about me, I live in NYC. My name is n00m.

              Pyrrhiod.
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              1. 4/7/2009 10:39 AM socrates wrote:
                Aaah, so you are Noom! Dude, I'm onto you. Please correct me if I'm wrong, but I think you are some form of yet to be coined genre of internet writer. Picture a sock puppeteer who doesn't work for no CIA. Picture said person combining prose with political and cultural critiques.

                Folks like us are misunderstood. We don't set out to destroy blogs because we are anti-social trolls. It's like we give these places a chance, and then they destroy themselves. We simply witness it and refuse to ignore the discrepancies. Are we not simply looking out for newbies and fence-sitters?

                I'd just like to see Antoinette succeed. I do find it awkward that she hasn't posted anything in response. Maybe she is shy? But I do believe if she gave us an open thread a week, we could help bring her in some readers. They would get bored with our spiels, and then check out her stuff. A win-win.

                Your nOOm account has been has been activated. Uhm, there was a time when the name of the forum was gonna be changed to All Aircraft Have Wings. An internet friend once called it that, while we had a falling out. That was a good one.

                Hey, MyLeftWing is turning into a bad joke. I love MSOC. It's the rest of them who stink. There's a conspiracy dude who keeps linking to Alex Jones. I believe he is most likely to be a paid fake. There is also a Fox TV producer, a conservative who is allowed to post there. What the sassafrassa?

                There's KarmaFish, who decided to slam Francis Holland through ad hominems and the evoking of authority. When I responded, asking him to explain Markos' CIA timeline, he hit the mute button. But he had no problem justifying the conservative guy's presence. Herbert Marcuse warned us about tolerance. Tolerance supports the status quo. Fair and balanced my arse.

                I'll cut to the chase. Are you Arthur Gilroy? Are you Noom? Are these questions like asking someone if they are CIA or how magic tricks are done, in that there is a rule against disclosure? At least show me how to solve the rubik's cube.

                And why not have a partitioned free speech zone within DaveFromQueens.com?

                I think Antoinette's stuff should stand on its own without us riff-raff hijacking her threads.

                Uhm, I am deeply disappointed in the soapblox culture. Man, talk about ip harvesting.

                By the way, if you are ever having trouble sleeping, check out FSZ. In between the irrelevant blogging are the soothing sounds of crickets.
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                1. 4/7/2009 4:02 PM DONKEYTALE wrote:
                  n0 and n0.

                  She had her 15 minutes, courtesy of MAMZ, saw her name in imaginary spotlights and proceeded to become a running media joke whenever she scammed her way on the air.

                  She's more than ready for her close up, Mr. De Mille.

                  You see her try to pick a fight with me in n00ms dairy. What was that all about? I wasnt even in the vicinity, nor am I going to be any time soon. She is as lost as the prodigal son on payday.
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                  1. 4/7/2009 4:09 PM donkeytale wrote:
                    MSOC, that is, not Marie Antoinette, who probably cant figure out what to do since we are honest to gawd traffic and shirley bringing in some gawkers with our weak schtick.

                    I got nuthn else. I'm out.

                    No havent seen FSZ lately. I can imagine in its grown dry there pretty quickly.

                    Not to worry, Matty Alou and Pinche Joto Tejano have their fingers on the pulse of the times. The allknowing, allseeing, exapnsive and penetrative mentality of the 20 something video game junkie.


                    Schyea wright, and n00mbots fly out my butt.
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                  2. 4/7/2009 4:59 PM socrates wrote:
                    I'm worried I'm gonna start seeing TinkerBell in my sleep. MSOC has had a good 15 minutes. Unfortunately, she is clueless on how to run a forum.

                    This KarmaFish reeks bad. I found a quote of his where he admits to having gone to MLW precisely to attack Francis Holland.

                    Yikes, MSOC is ranting on me. She loves a good dramafest. She's on fire right now all over that board. Remember that Mary Gross news character on SNL? That's MSOC in a nutshell.

                    Time for me to get back in there and set her straight. Laughing out loud. Not really.

                    http://myleftwing.com/showDiary.do?diaryId=24642
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                    1. 4/7/2009 10:11 PM donkeytale wrote:
                      Paglia nails the whiteysphere...does she know where the loosers live, or what? RIOTOUS!

                      Yes, something very ugly has surfaced in contemporary American liberalism, as evidenced by the irrational and sometimes infantile abuse directed toward anyone who strays from a strict party line. Liberalism, like second-wave feminism, seems to have become a new religion for those who profess contempt for religion. It has been reduced to an elitist set of rhetorical formulas, which posit the working class as passive, mindless victims in desperate need of salvation by the state. Individual rights and free expression, which used to be liberal values, are being gradually subsumed to worship of government power.

                      The problems on the American left were already manifest by the late 1960s, as college-educated liberals began to lose contact with the working class for whom they claimed to speak. (A superb 1990 documentary, "Berkeley in the Sixties," chronicles the arguments and misjudgments about tactics that alienated the national electorate and led to the election of Richard Nixon.) For the past 25 years, liberalism has gradually sunk into a soft, soggy, white upper-middle-class style that I often find preposterous and repellent.

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                      1. 4/8/2009 6:55 PM howardx wrote:
                        give it up junkie, you'd shrivel up and die without the whiteysphere to skewer. quite possibly the reason the good lord placed you on this earth was to point out spoonfed gen x brats hypocrisy but you sit here by yourself jerking your pud. get back in the game loooser.
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                        1. 4/8/2009 9:39 PM donkeytale wrote:
                          I did cross post my Webb BS over at FSZ, but, sadly, I'm tiring of the game. Time to hang em up...the biggest body blow was when the realization sunk in that I couldnt even rate a roster spot on "dave from queens" and had to settle for "dave from queens 2." RIOTOUS!

                          I did sign up at AllAircraft a n00m, know less, but I havent a frikkkin kkklue as to how to post on one of them thar forums, or wtf, they call it. Very intimidating, especially in the hallowed home of the greatness that is my new buddy, Sock Rat.

                          So my Dan Aykroyd Tom Snyder-lost-his-network-gig-and-is-now-hosting-kidz-showz schtick isnt working for you?
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                          1. 4/9/2009 1:13 AM socrates wrote:
                            The forum's kind of slow right now anyway. But it's kind of similar, just bb codes instead of html. Plus, you can edit your posts!

                            I left a post on your FSZ thread.

                            I took care of KarmaFish in a big way. He went all gotcha on Francis because DKos deleted a post containing the "N" word. While posts calling him a monkey are still there.

                            Plus he admitted to going to MLW to "fight" Francis.

                            HowardX is correct. You're more gifted at being a socrates than me. You are gifted at exposing the pretentious white bread. There's this Cleverguy82 at MLW who is so annoying. Talking up his college stats. He's like, look at me, aren't I special?

                            Curmudgette is another one. Ugh.

                            HowardX, now that's a great name. He's like a combination of Howard Stern and MalcolmX.

                            I hope Antoinette let's us stay. I promise to do something in Boston for her. We have some obnoxious right wing trash here for radio shows. Our worst ones are the sports guys in the morning. I think one of them referred to a metco student as a monkey. Let me consult with my friend, Googlie Gus.

                            http://archive.seacoastonline.com/2003news/10072003/south_of/53997.htm

                            Time flies. I guess this happened in 2003.

                            {fair use excerpt}

                            "Weei's Dennis, Callahan suspended two weeks

                            By Associated Press

                            Seacoastonline.com
                            Classified Market Place
                            www.seacoastclassifiedads.com
                            BOSTON - The hosts of a popular sports radio talk show have been suspended for two weeks for comparing an escaped zoo gorilla to minority students who participate in a voluntary busing program known as Metco...."

                            KarmaFish is an ass. Probably hangs out with Fingerit and Bouldin.
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                            1. 4/9/2009 7:46 AM donkeytale wrote:
                              Yeah, you mist KF at top of his KosKop game back in the FLH era, which was the high point of MLW, qualitatively speaking. Its like he was sent over by MAMZ to help MSOC regain control of her site's message (which was "make me a media star---NOW, MAMZ!!!"). MSOC was always on "vacation" or wtf, so the mice would start agitating for Francis' ban anytime she split. Like with dave recently, I was a vocal FLH supporter.

                              BTW, I did some of my pffunniest stuff at MLW, I think its still there.....an Oreilly spoof, a Sopranos final episode spoof. If I do say so myslef, it was top notch satire.

                              You think that antidepressant-addled looser MSOC ever figured out that she was being "controlled?"

                              Here's one that ought to get yur conspiracy inflicted brain spazzing: curmudgette is married to a career officer and gentleman in the US Military. Thats wright. COINTEL written all over her weak schtick. And notice how she always defers to MSOC's bloated, waterfilled balloon of an ego.

                              What true whiteyspherico is ever going to put up with that kind of abuse unless she has an ulterior motive? I mean, MSOC has driven off every single front pager/admin she has ever had.

                              Except good ol Mudge, natch.

                              Coincidentally, it was Mudge who also helped "Matty" "set up" FSZ, too. She first came to prominence as a partner of the "Blogging Curmudgeon" who turned out to be none other than the greatest double agent of them all, the legendary Shadowthief!

                              See the connnextions? There must be some meaning to the code word "Curmudgeon" but I have not been able to kkkrack the code to date.
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                            2. 4/9/2009 8:50 AM donkeytale wrote:
                              OK, I'm gonna do one more than I gotta go. To work.

                              I spent the best decade of my life in and around Boston, from the mid 70s-mid 80s. Why I left, and to return to the immense beating that was and still is the LA of my birth and morbidly depressed earl years, no less, I'll never know.... What a pffucking fool I was! ALmost as bad as the pffucking pffool I am...

                              Man, Boston was greatness for a young dude on the make. College age single women everywhere (altho generally not as attractive as what I had grown used to in Cali--smart chicks were still kinda fugly in general in those daze)! And all the dudes, especially the good looking ones, were gay. Zero competition for teh pussy, altho lots of the femmes preferred to be fag hags instead of tumbling for loosers like me. So, me being the creative type, I simply started hanging out with gay dudes. Even lived in teh South End before the yuppies took it over.

                              Same as it ever was.

                              I remember there used to be a call in sports talk show there, "Cliff and Claff" (those two NPR car talk wankers, Click n Clack basically stole their name and street schtick from these two originals). That show was pure greatness, two sodden, cynical and verbally abusive sportswriters (Herald Amerikkkan, natch) going at it daily. I used to come home from work on weeknights, after having tossed down several double scotch/rocks at happy hour (Boston a grate drinkers town too, perhaps surpassed only by New Orleans in that regard) and proceeded to call in to banter with the boyz...I became one of their faves, mainly because I would always revert to the sailor talk when I ran out of schtick (uusally in 3 seconds or less) and they would have to bleep out about half of what I said! And they loved me for it! Clif Keane, I think was one of them.

                              Great times, great times.

                              The Red Sox were in their Don Zimmer era, when they blew like an 8 and a half game lead in September, or wtf, only to be caught and beaten in the playoff by the hated Yanquis. Oh, the town was on a firestorm of derision in those daze. I loved it! Loved that native NE pessimism, which I suppose, like all great indigenous life forms, has long since died out, and devolved into the same Starbucks fed whiteyspheric vacuousness that has homogenized this no longer grate nation of ours into the ship of pffoolz we find oursleves sailing on today.
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                            3. 4/9/2009 9:02 AM donkeytale wrote:
                              Oh yeah: link to some clif and Claf memories:

                              http://p100.ezboard.com/Clif-Keane-dead-at-90/fsonsofsamhornfrm37.showMessage?topicID=356.topic
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                          2. 4/9/2009 10:53 AM howardx wrote:
                            just feel youre wasting your talents spinning your wheels here. tiring of the game is understandable though. youve been in it longer than most. since darrells mom made him shut down the pickle ive kind of lost my stomach for interacting with losers who grew up being told "we dont keep score everyone is a winner"
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                            1. 4/9/2009 11:23 AM donkeytale wrote:
                              No doubt, altho I dont look at it that way. As long as I'm krackkkin myslef up I'm OK. SOme of my best work was at "nowhereweb" where there were hardly any commenters but lotsa lurkers. I get distracted by all the BS comment threads and my quality suffers.

                              Besides, I like the way these comment threads look with all those lines running down each side.

                              Pretty sad to think that I was put on Earth to poke fun of the whiteysphere, but alas, I'm afraid that you are wright.

                              So Darrell closed the pickle shop? I have to tell you that I lost whatever respect I had for that dude when he blew up at dave. I mean, it was pffunny, but jeesh. Any nads visible on that dude at all?

                              Also not a big pffan of "diogenes" dalee either. Talk about misappropriating the name of a historic troll!!!!! Plus commentman and "matty", two more goldplated loosers, were also posting there regularly. All those dudes give me the kkkreeps, I'm afraid.

                              "Holds the Wienies" might have been a more apt title for that blog.

                              WTF were you doing there? And are you going back to FSZ too, or just egging me on to the slaughter for your own sadistic pleasure?

                              BTW, I got up in "Mattys" face this AM in the "Melvin love fest" dairy so who knows, I'm probably banned again or about to be, if "Matty" throws another hissy fit.

                              Are these people really that kkklueless about themselves?

                              Dont answer....why dont you work with me over here? We've always had some pretty good rapport, and Sock Rat is actually a very entertaining, intelligent and deceptively humourous contributor himslef.

                              OST, I'm sure we will be banned by the weekend anyway so whats the point?....RIOTOUS!
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                              1. 4/9/2009 11:35 AM howardx wrote:
                                im egging you on, i have no intention of posting there again, im not even lurking. re the pickle, i was just looking for a quiet spot with a few cool people, i know we disagree on who is cool or not but i liked those guys.
                                as for you and the whiteysphere i'll leave you with this bit from wikipedia
                                "In societies where freedom of speech was not recognized as a right, the court jester—precisely because anything he said was by definition "a jest" and "the uttering of a fool"—could speak frankly on controversial issues[1] in a way in which anyone else would have been severely punished for, and monarchs understood the usefulness of having such a person at their side.[1] Still, even the jester was not entirely immune from punishment, and he needed to walk a thin line and exercise careful judgment in how far he might go - which required him to be far from a "fool" in the modern sense."
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                                1. 4/9/2009 12:10 PM donkeytale wrote:
                                  It still not that easy to walk that fine line.

                                  It doesnt really matter who is cool or not. But yeah, I'm as burnt on teh whiteysphere as you are.

                                  Not me typing this BS.

                                  Its the charred remains of my burnt wienie sandwich.

                                  Here's some of the typikkkal kkkluelessness on display there:

                                  And yeah no matter how cheesy the Carpenters were (3.50 / 2)
                                  they wrote some songs that are really great for reinterpretation.

                                  --------------------------------------------------------------------------------

                                  by: Lauren S @ Thu Apr 09, 2009 at 01:52:19 AM EDT
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                                  Uh, no offense, but the Carpenters mostly did songs written by other people (0.00 / 0)
                                  "Superstar" for instance was written and originally recorded by the great Leon Russell, subsequently covered far and wide by lots of sangers, most memorably, IMHO, by Luther Vandross.
                                  Far from being cheesy, the Carps never went Hollywood, preferring to remain in the working class hometown of their roots, Downey, Ca. rather than a move to Bel Air or wtf.

                                  I was terribly disappointed when Karen stopped playing the drums. There is always something weird about the drummer being the lead vocalist anyway, but when the drummer/lead vocalist is the grrl next door to you in Downey, Calif, well it just doesnt get any stranger than that, unless she happens to be anorexic too....


                                  I mean, she seriously believes that the Carpenters wrote their own big hitz? WTF? The levelk of unintelligence on that blog is growing more frightening by the minute....and sad to say, lauren s is about as smart as it gets there, anymore which is good since she's the one who is really responsible for the tone and tenor of that place, not me and Sock rat. Why cant the blind followers see?

                                  Jesus Christ, spit on some dirt and rub mud in their eyes for me, would ya?

                                  [;o)
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                                  1. 4/9/2009 12:20 PM howardx wrote:
                                    fuck em. the people there now feel more comfortable with a higher level of conformity to group standards, thats not my bag.
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                                    1. 4/9/2009 12:36 PM donkeytale wrote:
                                      Well said. Well said.

                                      I blame it all on Peeder.
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                                      1. 4/9/2009 1:03 PM howardx wrote:
                                        peeder's lesson in just how little all "this" matters was lost on most i think.
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                                        1. 4/9/2009 1:31 PM donkeytale wrote:
                                          Yes, and me too most of the time too, for that matter. I would respect Peeder (and MarketTrustee too, for that matter) if they would just come along and eat the crow they both deserve for backing and/or predicting a Mkkkain victory...at least Peeder didnt try to pass off Mkkkain's "inevitability" using a statistical model.
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                                          1. 4/9/2009 1:36 PM donkeytale wrote:
                                            Is it just me, or is the narrowing of this thread starting to resemble a vagina?

                                            [freudian alert]
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                                      2. 4/9/2009 1:57 PM socrates wrote:
                                        This is awesome. Pretty soon this
                                        subthread
                                        is gonna be
                                        one
                                        word
                                        a
                                        line.

                                        I guess
                                        the
                                        key
                                        is to
                                        start
                                        new
                                        subthreads.

                                        I tried reading through MSOC's rule page. Wow. She makes me look like Hemingway. Thanks for the inside scoopage on the Curmedgettes.

                                        It's fairly obvious cointelpro is all over these blogs. But it sounds goofy to point it out. And it becomes a friggen blur.

                                        Funny how many military types end up as 'progressives'. The big thread at MSOC's is on gun control. The other big one is on gay rights. Hello? Gays deserve full rights. Gun control is a good thing. To see so-called progressives fighting for their guns, it's John Stossel time. I miss Mary Gross. I used to be Kevin Arnold. Now it turns out Winnie Cooper married someone else. Obama is reading my emails.

                                        I saw how Curmudgette was #2 or close on the FSZ power list. Tinoire of Progressive Independent is ex-military.

                                        Ben Burch is a strange one. He used to be a libertarian writing about fisting, something I'd have rather never heard about. {see Kevin Arnold}

                                        Whether someone is cointelpro or a fake progressive, it's not on me to figure it out. But come on. When these fockers can't even just leave a guy like Dave alone, they're just asking for some kind of ferocious pushback.

                                        I did to KarmaFish what I did to Lauren S. He has 9000 or something posts at DKos. He has 6000 at MyLeftWing. Yeah, DT, he definitely appears to be some kind of plant product.

                                        I just don't have it in me to figure out Peeder, Armando. I'd like to understand Number5. Any clue on Anonymous Army? I think they might be the same guy.

                                        Maybe the key goal of these people is to make us never know who we can trust. I just figure Dave was for real. So I know that Antoinette is.

                                        DonkeyTale, are you banned from MyLeftWing?

                                        As for Melvin and CommentBreath, their attacks on me don't add up. Am I supposed to simply shut up about Brett Kimberlin, Larisa Alexandrovna, and Brad Friedman? If my stuff on them was so outrageous, it would have been ignored. Same with Francis Holland and Dave for that matter. If we are all just proverbial moonbats, you'd think there wouldn't be all these extra-blogdicial movements to distort our posts.

                                        Dave was a genius. This is what the enemy doesn't understand. We can do what they do....Much Better!!!

                                        If they'd just have left folks like us alone, their attempts at damage control would have worked out better. Peeder. Now that's a dude I'm having trouble trusting. Couldn't he have found a way to leave those PFF pages up? There's no way for me or anyone else late on the scene to have a clue whether it had any significance.

                                        As for it taking away MSOC's mojo, I don't buy that. I think you're right, DT, that MSOC's problem is she never figured out that insidious forces like KarmaFish and Curmudgette were destroying her base from the inside.

                                        I think MSOC is legit. Her problem was/still is that she can't envision how cointelpro would operate on the internet. She should be going after Markos.
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                                        1. 4/9/2009 6:46 PM howardx wrote:
                                          so crates dial it back a notch already, you dont have to be "on" all the time. try just bs'ing about baseball or music every now and again.
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                                        2. 4/9/2009 7:24 PM donkeytale wrote:
                                          No, Im not banned at MLW. I was reinstated sometime after PFF took off and according to curmudgette MSOC even made me a front pager but never told me! Riotous! Talk about mood swings!

                                          Jeesh. Then, when the big banning kerfluffle happened last year and I started posting again there with n00m and Eric S, MSOC immediately removed my privileges! I made a few jokes about it but I never intend to be a front pager anywhere. I mean, that would be like Rodney Dangerfield getting respect...where can you go from that sort of trap? I used to do lotsa schtick about banning the wrekkk list at PFF. Peeder, to his credit front paged just about everything, which I have long lobbied for on all the moderated sites. Thats how i got MSOCs goat originally, she had the absolute worst front pagers in the whiteysphere, real kkklunks like Thereisnospoon and clammyc who were and/or are koskops and about as interesting to read as my butt after a good BM. The best wrighting by far was buried in the plebe section on a daily basis. Painfully obvious but of course no one had th eguts to speak up except you know who?

                                          Plus she had and I still think has "Betsy L. Angert" a woman of certain age and means, but her writing excites about as much as an Ambien overdose. Washed down with a quart of cheap bourbon.

                                          I made the mistake of insinuating that maybe, just maybe, certain FP'ers there were y'know, getting front paged coincidentally with some nice donations to the MSOC cause. How else do you explain the ridiculousness of some rich old lady posting extremely longwinded clicheity everyday of the week and it being auto front paged?

                                          That didn t go over too well. In fact the resposne was so vehement in denial that of course you thot I had accused MSOC of accepting bribes or wtf. Jeesh. She got angert about it.

                                          It would be interesting to see how many people donate to FSZ and if there is any correlation between the holier than thou attitudes and amount of money donated.

                                          I am proud to say I have never given a penny to any of them... I'm the talent for Gods sake....I give and give and give, selflessly I mite add. And what do I get in return for my blood sweat and tears all offered freely? HA HA.

                                          Pwoggies suck. You say they are fakes. Yes they. Real fake. So fake they are convinced they are for real.

                                          "Matty" set himself up for the epic fail by tieing his front paging to wrekkks. This of course leads to cliques and the same kkkrappy kkkrap making the front page and wrekkk list all the time. Very dumb move on "Mattys" part but then again, as you say, "Matty" has changed since he waqs a yuthful troll named jack at PFF. Totally coopted these daze. Not an ounce of originality or independnece from teh herd.
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        3. 4/6/2009 7:46 PM donkeytale wrote:
          [part 2 begins]

          The prison industrial complex is as ominous as any other other greedy corporate fed interest group in this dubiously grate nation of ours. Besides, as one of AMerikkka’s few growth industries, the PIC provides gainful employment for millions of semi-educated, procreative, marginally “normal” meatheads, so we will have to grapple with a not discussed issue just as we will grapple in reforming healthcare, automotive, banks or any other large sector of our economy: what you gonna do with all the meatheads who take up all the space, who you no longer really need, in fact who you never really needed in the first place, whose value added on the quality of Amerikkkan life is nil, and whose existence is defined entirely by mating /procreating a subsequent generation of meatheads in a never ending cycle of human futility and domestic consumption?

          Webb seems to be a throwback: a senator who actually wants to use his power to, y’know, correct all the stuff that’s gotten fucked up. And he doesn’t want to do it next week, either. He wants to study the mess first. There will be hearings! He seems intent upon actually doing something with his job besides using it as a platform to spout red rouge cheeked cornpone on Cable news shows.

          I like Webb what has done, so far, in style if not necessarily results. Too soon to know anything about results. We all have an interest in a more just, humane and less costly criminal justice system. Some of us more than others. Ha Ha.

          Oh, and about all those jailers and prison guard perps who will be out of a job in a few years?

          Let the fuckers sell weed for a living. Not like lots of them haven’t been anyway.

          http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/03/27/jim-webb-pot-legalization_n_180073.html
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          1. 4/7/2009 5:12 AM donkeytale wrote:
            From the linked story:

            "Ive done an extensive hearing on marijuana," Webb chortled, not adding that it was in his living room with his son who was home on leave from some battlefront somewhere.
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            1. 4/8/2009 3:00 PM donkeytale wrote:
              Glenn Greenwald on Salon today regarding the overwhelming success of drug decriminalization in Portugal, providing clear evidence that drug policy must be a key element of criminal justice system reform:
              As the above-excerpted passage from Scientific American demonstrates, there are few debates driven by as much rank irrationality as those over drug policy. Thus, we have emphatic acknowledgments that decriminalization has been a resounding success -- it has enabled the Portuguese to manage what had been their out-of-control drug crises of the 1990s far better than virtually every other country that continues to criminalize drug usage -- combined with ongoing opposition to that successful policy (along with the U.S. Government's steadfast refusal even to comment on the success of decriminalization in Portugal). That is the very definition of irrationality.

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  • 4/10/2009 8:20 AM donkeytale wrote:
    Check this out Sock rat. You get a shout out, but the real news here is that, scientifically observed, you and I are out of the picture and so the true rats are now feeding on each other. For everybody to see.

    But will they see?

    RIOTOUS!

    http://freespeechzoneblog.com/diary/3878/open-thread-its-not-squatting-when-you-own-the-banks
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