My Mutterings
By Antoinette
Because of my work in the news media, I don’t post articles daily. But, I have some stories of interests that involves Fox News Channel, Bill O’Reilly, Sean Hannity, and the rest of the Fox News clowns.
As for the Daily Kos, the traffic to the site continues downward, according to Alexa.com. More and more users are leaving Daily Kos. Names were made public and now they will suffer the consequence of their actions. The site is dying thanks to the Kos Kops. I believe in karma. What goes around, comes around.
It’s rumored that progressive talker Ed Schultz may get his own show on MSNBC, according to Radio Equalizer. This would be a great addition to the network. We’ll just have to wait and see.
Last Saturday, conservative radio talking head Mark Levin signed copies of his new book at Book Revue in Huntington, New York. About 6,000 conservative sheep showed up to this event. Inside the bookstore was packed with people, mostly white middle-aged folks. Outside, hundreds of people waited in line hoping to see the so-called “Great One.”
Levin’s buddy Hannity showed up. Hannity, sporting a dark jacket, white shirt, blue jeans and graying hair, greeted fans at the booksigning. It seems Hannity rather spend time with his buddy Levin than quality time with his family. But that’s another story.
Book Revue didn’t anticipate the large crowd and sold out of the books. Many Levin fans left with nothing in their hands. Poor saps.
I took a googler at the stats. It appears that DKos is down to 50,000 readers a day, a far cry from the half million to a million they seem to used to pull in.
Plus, as someone who runs a forum, I learned that many of the "readers" are actually spambots and spider types.
The DKos is boring. Dave was the kind of diarist they should have savoured. To me, it appears that citizen journalism is not wanted on the internet.
MyLeftWing and other places have made terrible mistakes in banning people like Dave and Francis Holland for no good reasons. The lurkers stop lurking when such patterns persist.
The good thing is that we thus learn about the need to made a difference in the real world. If we can't take our efforts on the internet and apply them to outside of the blogosphere, then what is the point?
It's felt good the last week making posts. I feel that I am no longer beating my head against the wall. I am proud of exposing fake progressives. It is good that Dave gave the DKos every chance to correct their mistakes. That means when folks abandon them, they will not have to look back and have doubts.
Another thing to realise about such blogs and their traffic is that much of the numbers appear to be coming from "addicts." The key is to look at the unique numbers.
The HuffingtonPost is kicking ass for popularity. Unfortunately, there really isn't room at HuffPo for citizen bloggers to advance.
Dave was all about democracy. He had a big fan base. It just makes no sense that DKos would allow their website to plummet, unless it has outside sources and other motives than raising advertising revenue. When the remaining advertisers realise that most of the readers are the same people, they will bail out.
This is where DKos messed up: Dave gave them one last chance to correct the banning/hidden comment system. Instead of doing so, they allowed the attacks on sincere messengers to persist. Dave made a brilliant point that Kos never posted on any of his stuff until his "goodbye cruel world" diary. He should have just avoided making any comment. Hannity, the same.
I let it rip a bit on your recent entry on Ann Coulter and abortion. It felt good. It was just little old me talking the breeze.
The major "progressive" forums don't want me. So be it. But that doesn't mean I'm gonna shut my yapper or give up.
One last thing. The insidious elements have an achilles heel. They do not think that a few people can beat them at their own games. No matter how many times I have warned such folks to stop treating me like dirt, they have. BradBlog taunted me to dig up dirt on him. I did. Larisa treated me like rubbish. I exposed her for the fruitcake nature of her blogging record and associations. Mike Rivero's "unofficial" WRH forum created an elaborate cybersmear script against me. Well, that forum has been deleted, and I'm still going strong. I saved pages and proved my case, that they were the crazy kooks, not me. Fingerit belittled me, but I got the last laugh.
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Just a brief note to say that jacquee banned me again. I can see why. He's making up more stories again, fooling the few loosers he has left again and threatening anybody and everybody who dares question him. The por little "anarchist" got cant lie easily if I'm there so he banned me. Not sure if n00m's gone too.
The story here is that last night he tried, once again, to claim credit for taking out Flaw and the kops, a pitiful bit of braggadocio for a teenybopper. I called him out on it, he quickly deleted both his comment and mine and then got very ugly, telling e a so crates both to die. He is nutz, like a little kid having a tantrum.
What a farcer.
Later
RIOTOUS!
The "Free Speech Zone" finally properly outs itself as MLW-lite.
Good luck with
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Jack hasn't banned me, at least yet. So why did you get banned and not me?
I think it's because I'm fresh meat. It's also easier for them to spin me as being a paranoid, conspiracy kook, while you get the sewer troll ranking. They can bring on sock puppets like Hemlock, Plato, Brett Kimberlin, and Larisa Alexandrovna to mock my solid couple years of blogging.
Jack's explanation of the events from last night will never add up. Nor when he made that pact with Fingerit, calling him a regular guy while scrubbing the UGOG file link.
Contradictions are their downfall. Fingerit used to love to go after anyone he could pin the ct kook label on. Yet, there he was on my Prepostericty DKos diaries supporting the queen of the kooks, Larisa Alexandrovna.
It was somewhat unsettling to read Jack telling us wrap ourselves around trees and die.
How come Lauren S calls me a paranoid kook, but when Jack started in on me being a rightwing infiltrator, she nor anyone else called him to task? That's blatant hypocrisy.
You're better off, DT, not being there. Myself, too. I refuse to invest much time into websites that scrub and prune. I refuse to take a verbal beating from anyone.
Dkos is down to 50,000 readers a day, while HuffingtonPost has been producing the mega-stats. Dave's fine work was the final dagger put into DKos' viability.
Now we see Jack's Smirking Revenge having yet another jumping the shark moment.
We all make mistakes. A real man {or woman} will interact fairly, and recant whenever necessary. Dave was ostracized. I just took a googler through this domain. Except for Abbeysbooks, I don't see that Dave got much support.
I see one FSZ thread from right after Dave died that supported him. But now I view that one as having been a bait and switch.
People like Pager, Kestrel9000, CometMan, DeeDogg, Melvin, HowardX, and most of that FSZ crowd are the epitome of a waste of time and running interference. I refuse to participate there any longer.
I wouldn't give up on blogging, DT, but do try to find places where there isn't any cheating, or where it is kept to a bare minimum, unlike DKos, FSZ, MLW, DU, and unfortunately nearly every "progressive" domain.
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Hmmmm. I just left my goodbye cruel world post at FSZ, which included that DT says he was banned. I gave links to this website, my humble forum, and the new DFQ place. Four minutes later, Lauren S returned with some lie she seemed to have had in her back pocket ready to go pertaining my "weather mitigation" website.
It was classic MajorFlaw-like activity. So I made one more post to expose "her" disinfo.
Then I saw on another thread that Vox Humana was asking whether anyone had been banned without breaking a rule. He said he was ready to go, if this had happened. Jack said no one was banned. I ws gonna make one more post directing the readers to Dt's comments here saying otherwise. But for some reason FSZ is no longer connecting, even through proxy.
Perhaps Jack and Co. are busy with the scrub brush?
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What happens is you can log into your account but when you hit any button to change screens you get locked out. I trid again at 6:00 AM and am still banned. No offense, dude, but Jack knows that people like Vox and Super, even some of his new "gang" of supporters no I speak with unforked tongue and I've built up more credibility over they years because my schtick is a running commentary about the silliness and middle class reactionism of the whiteysphere, starting from DKOS down to the bottom feeders.
Whatever, I asked to have my account deleted. I'm not going to post there anymore. Jack, the suburban gangsta kkkan have his pffun. It's his problem, y'know, living with himself in the long term. Same for the rest of the sewer rats. Vox knows I dont pull punches on ANYTHING or ANYBODY, and I don't lie.
Jack, OTOH, is a dissembler in his best moments and a flat out crooked nose liar at times like these.
He's just a kkkid but his rot is worthy of middle age [projection alert]. People want to be led around blindly by the nose, and so you see, this is ordinary.
In other news, I see that Jin Webb, the horrid blue dog conservative war monger has proposed far reaching reform of th eprison system. This is where my interest in politics lies, with the, y'know, oppressed and jailed poor people of this country, most of whom are not white and dont have economic franchise enough to even care about G-20. G-20 protests are strictly middle class, meaning once the protest is over, everybody slaps five and goes back to work to pay the mortgage.
I've signed on with Webb's campaign to reform the prison system. Here, I will agree, however. Mass action is required to change the system.
As for me, I blog to hone my own hinking and wrighting skillz, altho its ruined my speling!
I'm working on some more stories. They are for me and my kidz. Later. Perused your site last nite and enjoyed the dfq stuff. I supported dfq on FSZ, even got his first banning rescinded by direct confrontation. But I think the cointel warz are fruitless. Battling DKOS was fruitless. Tempest in teapot stuff, sorry to say. DFQ's street activism was brave and sometimes brilliant, always courageous. His example certainly more than cancels out Jackee's little lying temper tantrums.
Good luck with your sites.
Later.
That
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DonkeyTale, while I appreciate your kind wishes for my forum and the blog dedicated to Dave, alas, I cannot let you get away with the misinformation that you supported Dave while he was at FSZ.
http://www.freespeechzoneblog.com/showComment.do?commentId=14350
"Why should she be offended at anti-anti-MAMZ Meta-meta? As devoutly practicing scientismists we all know the laws of nature: light a fire at someone else's (orange) house and you will soon engulf your own house in flames...
Goose/gannder.
Glass houses/stones
Play/pay
etc./ad nauseum"
"I'm getting sick of all the META schtick too"
"Yur calling me out for calling Susan, Dave and you out for calling out DKOS posters who have been made targets in a very unhealthy way.
There have been outings and a banning, much ugliness and dissension, all resulting from MAMZ meta. None of this involves RL issues."
"I believe he thinks the unhealthy obsession with DKOS thats gone down here is pretty equal to my unhealthy obsessions, which I am at least healthy enough to admit are unhealthy."
"You are free to continue with MAMZ meta. Of course, I am also free to continue the anti-MAMZ Meta-Meta.
Your comments on this blog are increasingly bizarre. You have set out on a self appointed "mission" to retaliate and destroy the KKKOS KKKops. It appears, as so often happens with personal obsessions, that you are having a much bigger impact on your own self than you are on "them"."
http://www.freespeechzoneblog.com/showDiary.do?diaryId=836
"Moulitsas Meta Blows"
"Dave is planning to usurp MAMZ role
in the Whiteysphere, on Jack's Freespeech zone"
"Goose/gander. Some people find me more interesting than yet another top thirty Kos asshole list and the ancient history of hidden comments."
"The DKOS meta seems to have effectively erupted into a cross blog flame war which now has led to a banning and the driving of hamburgler off FSZ and into hiding.
And for what actual "interesting" gain?"
http://www.freespeechzoneblog.com/showDiary.do?diaryId=921
"Anti-Anti-Anti MAMZ Meta-Meta Meta"
"I think the last straw was when Jack recommended my last anti-anti-MAMZ meta-meta masterpiece "Moulitsas Meta Blows" which called out Something, Sabrina and Dave."
"No one pays any attention to Meta, especially donKKKeyturd Meta"
I appreciate that you stuck up for Dave over the weekend against Jack's lies. But there's no need for you to whitewash how you truly acted when the DFQ versus UGOG/FSZ/Kos battle was at its climax. Dave was Rambo. He was one person who despite all the odds single-handedly crushed three websites who deserved it.
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Hi, I'm here and reading. All I know is that I watched Dave for a long time at dkos. early on he was too wordy, too ingratiating, and too innocent as to what they were doing to him. I had been part of a long nasty flame war at Utne Cafe meta and there was solidarity there among us. At dkos (years later) I decided I was not going to ever get in one of those again. When they came after me in the beginning I just thought it was some turds and ignored them. But then everytime I came online to read and comment they popped up. I wondered how they always knew where I was. I still had not discovered the search option. When they wouldn't quit I simply trolled them thinking I had plenty of
capital so I needn't worry. So in my up front way I went back at them. I knew better this time not to try to defend, explain, use logic and expect that to work. When I did it was to communicate tothe other people there at that particular time, not to change the brownshirts. In time I ran out of TU status and only then did I realize how concerted an effort they were making to get rid of me. I emailed a couple of administrators and received n reply. So I thought, that's that. I fight alone or with whoever happens to be with me. But I did see it was a gang and they did threaten to autoban me. I thought go ahead. I am not shutting up on you nazis and if that is the consequence then so be it. At least it will all be in the record. I still didn't know how powerful the hidden comments option was. Not only did it take away everything I said but also all their attacks. Just vanished. No history, no nuttin. Gone.
Who of the many readers is a TU and how many TU's are interested enough to poke around in hidden comments. During this time was when I started copying and saving everything to make a record before it got hidden and before I was gone. I stay up very late and there would always be at least one of them up late too. and then they would zero everything and there would be no one to confront them or rec me up. So very clever. But I couldn't believe I was that important. Why me? And as I stalked majorflaw for almost 2 years I saw that anyone who confronted any of them became a target. That's how they picked their next victim. And anyone who recced someone they were d0nutting was anathema to them. I also saw that they were going to ruin the site eventually. And that didn't make sense to me.
But then my last analyst told me once that I did not put enough store into the destructive aspect of people.
Dave didn't either. And I watched him grow so much. As he began to do quid pro quo with them he just came on so strong and good and with so much integrity. So uninnocent, so powerful. I forget wich analyst has written about power and innocence and saying that innocence is wanting to stay a child. Dave just grew up before my eyes and became a hero to me. And it is still hard for me to believe that I was the only one who saw that and bowed to it. And I am so proud and grateful.
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{3 Part Post}
Maybe this article was the one Dave found to figure out Fingerit's name:
http://www.thevillager.com/villager_5/letterstotheeditor.html
The Fingerit files:
http://davefromqueens.com/2009/01/10/majorflaw-michael-fingerit-files-reposted.aspx
Anyway,
Abbeysbooks, it's interesting that you tracked him for almost two years.
Here is my take. When I got trolled on at DKos, it was by this same person and Larisa. He wasn't debating fair. He was asking me to repeat things I'd already provided. I decided to take a look at his comment history. I was shocked. Too troll this, Stfu troll that. I mean, it wasn't rocket science that this guy was some form of thought police. I picked up on that as a DKos newbie without having any knowledge of DKos history.
The funny thing is how both UGOG and FSZ started at around the same time in September. This perhaps implies some kind of Peeder involvement, but I really don't want to go there.
The strange thing is that the FSZ had no problem with 'meta' until Dave showed up. And we both know that Dave was a good guy always respectful of rules. We could see that in his "Lessons of Long Island" thread.
But somewhere along the way, all of a sudden Jack was telling him to write only one DKos meta diary a week. DonkeyTale was doing his disruptive act, as shown above in how he attacked Dave, Sabrina, and Susan Something.
It was as if FSZ versus DKos was controlled opposition, that strong third parties weren't expected to show up. While DT was good for taking out Susan and Sabrina through mysoginy, Dave was the monkey wrench. And I bet no one expected Dave to figure out the UGOG website.
I am not trying to toot my own horn, but I stumbled across something damaging to an adversry back in the day. Basically, when my forum was young, I would once in a while take a look at who was visiting. One ip kept showing up, and it was from the state of my cyberstalker. I bookmarked it and kind of forgot about it for a long time.
By chance, months later I plugged it into google, and a post showed up at a forum which includes all the ip's. I guess years back a lot of forums did this. Not so much anymore.
Anyway, ip's don't usually mean much. I was trying to see if military or whatnot were showing up. The only reason I kept that specific ip was because the geography lined up with an attacker.
When I read the post at that forum, it was obviously the same guy. But even then, it wasn't that big a deal. It only meant that the dude was visiting my forum, something to be expected.
Now here is the kicker. I was a regular for a time at BradBlog. Incidentally, that was briefly after I had first learned of Moulitsas Zuniga's involvement with the CIA, and when Brad was going toe to toe with Dana Houle.
My cyberstalkers showed up at BradBlog. I was tight with Brad then. He had even offered me a guest blog. On a whim, I asked him if one of the cyberstalker/smearers had the same ip.
Bingo. We have bingo.
{continued in next post}
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Lauren S: "You can read about his conspiracy theory at his site (but I'd use a proxy if I were you, he's gathering IP addresses there of people who disagree with him). He basically thinks that Brad Friedman & Larisa Alexandrovna are part of some massive conspiracy hoax when it comes to Clint Curtis & Michael Connell. Apparently BradBlog & RawStory are paid disinformation or something."
This has forced me to make a post both at my forum and at davefromqueens2.blogspot to deny the charges.
The irony is that when I had originally outed my cyberstalker's ip, the culprit turned on me with the same exact angle, that one need beware of the evil socrates who will out that info.
Ironically, this same person did a 180 degree turn to even worse convolution by later changing his ip and then having Brad email him that his ip was different than the sock puppet. First, he claimed I was outing his ip. Then he claimed it was never his ip.
I still have an email or two I sent to Brad informing him of the cyberstalking and smears. But like with my expose on Steven Hertzberg of ESI, Brad couldn't care less.
This is where it got even more bizarre.
Lauren S: "Actually you don't even have to ask a question there to be banned. He just checked to see which IP address was searching for "ip address" at his site and banned the proxy address I was using. It was too awesome for words when I realized what he'd done.
Just show that you're looking into his own words there and he'll ban you just like that."
Lauren S.: "Oh and here's another good one. After he banned that proxy address, I went back with another while he was busy bloviating here. When I searched for the comment I was referring to, I could no longer find it in a search. Unless I just overlooked it, he deleted the comment that I read where he taunted someone after snagging their IP address as a threat.
Banning for not even posting a word. Deleting his own words to be able to deny he is doing what he is doing.
The irony is so thick it would take a machete to slice through it."
I mean, come on. Is she saying I am cointelpro disinfo? That I am some kind of computer expert? My conclusion is that she is a spook.
This is some crazy stuff I have been through. Like Dave, I have been pretty much on my own except for a few people.
So Abbeysbooks, from someone who has been where Dave has been, you are to be commended. You need to understand that he needed your support, and it did wonders for him. Same as with Susan Something.
The dark side tries to make the few muckrakers go insane or feel isolated. It's like that Gandhi quote. Is it Gandhi, like this? First they ignore you. Then they ridicule you. Then they fight you. Then you win.
I have tons of proof to back my story, and I can prove I am who I say I am. And I can prove that I am not a paid fake. And we can all prove the same things about David Weintraub, a man who took on insidious, apparently paid trolls, and won!!!!!
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Darn, my part 2 never made it and was lost.
That's ok. It was basically a bit more about my own backstory. I also put up my last post at FSZ denying the lies that I harvest ip's. It happened once, and I am probably going to be filing a police report for cyberstalking against that individual.
Basically, that person can also be tied to the neo-nazis who hounded me for exposing Michael Rivero and his "Unofficial" WRH forum.
The comments above by Lauren S. were on a diary started by Mattes concerning Larisa Alexandrovna and saying she has been attacked for being an Anti-Israel Jew. Mattes has had Rivero's forum linked to in her signature.
That's some crazy stuff Lauren S. has accused me of doing. She has been labeling me as a conspiracy kook for a while now, yet here she is making me out to be some kind of computer whiz.
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http://www.freespeechzoneblog.com/showComment.do?commentId=77509
This is where it started.
Lauren S: "You posted at your Chem Trails site that you had snookered someone into posting there to get their ip address. Why would anybody trust to go to your sites when you actually admit that you have ulterior motives like that, using your sites as bait to get real life info about people who disagree with you?"
I called her out for being a liar.
Here was my last post in which I linked and copied and pasted DT from this thread.
http://www.freespeechzoneblog.com/showComment.do?commentId=77538
"As for Lauren S lying about me on the other thread, consider the source and how she provides no links for any of her claims. That's all. My work here is done."
Lauren S: " Welcome back, Socrates! I didn't lie about you at all. You made a post at your forum letting someone who disagreed with you know that you'd snookered them into giving them your ip address by visiting your forum."
So, that's when she decided to cook up the above about me deleting the "proof" and banning her because I have super duper computer skills. Here's the Mattes diary on Larisa. Now why is so much attention spent on trolling me?
It's just a coincidence that I'm attacked so much?
http://www.freespeechzoneblog.com/showDiary.do?diaryId=3723
at-Largely by Larisa Alexandrovna
by: mattes
Mon Mar 30, 2009 at 12:23:13 PM EDT
"Ah, now I see why "they" hate her. A Russian Jew, exposing Zionism AND wants to investigate 9/11.....a DOUBLE no-no."
Run for the hills. It's the Joooss!1!!11!!
I stand by my exposes on Brett Kimberlin, Larisa Alexandrovna, and Brad Friedman regardless of being Dave-like in getting little to no support while getting me ass trolled by cointelpro-like operatives.
http://Prepostericity.DailyKos.com
and the astroturfing section at my forum:
http://allaircraftarenotinvolved.freeforums.org
Oh, did I mention that Fingerit can be tied directly to those fake "election integrity" progressives??? :)
I am a player. Anyone who follows through on this will see that I am legit. Just like they will see with Dave.
I outed one ip. ONE. It was from my cyberstalker, someone with an internet public persona that's been hounding me for two years.
I do not harvest ip's. They don't even mean anything. The one I found did.
Maybe someday I get written up in a newspaper article by one of the three journalists who know my story.
Or maybe Antoinette can help find someone groovy to take the story.
These people do not scare me, and they have been fully exposed as being fakes.
Michael Fingerit, Kimberlin, Larisa, Brad, Hertzberg, Rivero, and many others have gotten away with nothing!!!
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Socrates, I didnt support daves antikos kop schtick, as I already said. I supported his wright to advance his cause, however silly and inconsequential I found it (which I stated claerly to him and the world) however he was hounded off FSZ and I DID vocally, aggressively and forcefully press the issue on Jack and Alec and the others EVERY TIME HE WAS BANNED. UNEQUIVOCALLY. As I said in the above comment, the anti-kos crusade of dave's was tempest in teapot, actually unworthy of him, beneath him.
Your research seems is slanted and incomplete, and not even addressing the issue you raise. I went strenuously to bat for dave's reinstatement each and every time he was banned. I directly confronted Jack, alec, and all the other "free speech" advocates who agitated for his banning, just like you did for me the other night when I was banned....and I was banned, altho I'm not sure why, since I voluntarily left. You'll notice Jack lied about it. SOP for the "anarachist" who cant seem to be honest, eh? Remember dylans famous anarchist creed: "To live outside the law you must be honest?" Well, Jack, FAIL!!!!!!
But here is where you are dead wrong (pardon the pun). I vocally and strenuously stood up for dave's unbanning in comment threads and dairies and took the case straight to the PTB and his fellow travelers. Several times. Here is a diary I remember where I promised to delete if Jack reinstated dave, which I called for IN BOLD.
http://www.freespeechzoneblog.com/showDiary.do?diaryId=1930
Ah, where you in those daze, dude? Blogging under another name? Too busy staring at the sky?
RIOTOUS! Get it straight. I was critical of the anti-kos BS, as I ,uh, said.. It seems to have completely backfired anyway. Lets tally up the count. Dave is dead, flaw and his thugs are banned from DKOS but the "free speech zone" has become just another version of the same stupid mentality. SO, effectively, we still have DKOS and FSZ has become DKOS-lite. Community moderation without the bann....oh, yeah, I was banned, wasnt I?
RIOTOUS!
On my scorecard, the only thing that matters here is dave's real life example. DKOS has very little meaning in the world. Relatively speaking, its a small, successful business but its influence on politics is roughly equivalkent to a newspaper column, less than TV or radio.. Its middle class inactivism by people who were miffed at Bush but not really looking for any systemic change.
FSZ and the wrest of the whiteysphere the same. Just blah blah blog.
I dont support the efforts of people when I think the efforts are wrong headed no matter how much I admire the people themselves.
My support for dave in this instance, well documented if you really look, was entirely about his ability to continue his cause even tho I didnt think it to be worthwhile.
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Jack claims you arent banned. Devore is trash talking you as we speak. A miraculous resurrection is in order.
RIOTOUS!
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I see I'm like number one and three on the yecch list for the first time ever! RIOTOUS!
Thanks for the pimping Jack and noom, but isnt this just another tired replay of the last little banning game jackee fucked up on? N00m's even posting at MLW again. Only diff is this time jack's chasing after him blowing his typikkkal smoke to cover his rather obvious and small tracks. I explained above what happened when I logged in Sunday at around 2pm and again Sunday evening at around 11PM. The system accepted my userid and password and brought up the front page as if I was logged in but when I went to the next screen, regardless of where I, is exactly what happened when we were banned last Dec, so beg yur pardon if thats what I based my "opinion" that I had been rebanned. How odd of me to think such a thot, given that Jackee melted down the night before and basically said it was odds on he would ban me in the manana. According to current herdist theory, it was a computer glitch. Curmudgette said so, so it must be true. OK. How many times has she been banned from a soapblox site using a non-admin account? How would she know what a banned user sees when he tries to log in? And might that not change anyway, given upgrades, glitches, code amending, etc. See, there is no way to really tell who is lying or not, is there? You just have to accept or reject based on...words. And jack, as is true to his style has been trumpeting that I'm not banned. Well, gee, maybe he reinstated me just to "prove" I was never banned. Who really knows? maybe it all was just a coincidence> Schyeah wright, and n00mbots fly out my butt!
But here is one thing that seems to be true. Jack put up a reply to socrates Saturday night which was a variation of his "I stood up to Flaw, saved everyone's privacy and when I banned dave it was only because we both agreed" I called him on it and minutes later both comments were gone. That much is indisputable. Pager, of all peeps, came in and said she saw jacks post and agreed it was "a tad sketchy on the facts." Today of course she is firmly back in herd, but y'know, I guess she believes everything she hears from the PTB even when she saw the truth with her own eyes.
And now I see Jackee wants an apology! He claims he apologized to me twice when he banned me before? I never asked him to apologize to me BTW, last time, I asked him to apologize to Sab for his little prank driving her off the deep end into accusing me of stalking her. I guess that qualifies as a "lie" in commentmans book, but I'll be wright.
http://www.freespeechzoneblog.com/showDiary.do?diaryId=1624
http://www.freespeechzoneblog.com/showComment.do?commentId=29176
Why did he apologize to me instead? I didnt care that I was banned but what did his apology to me actually contain? Did he ever admit that he made up the bit about noom, eric and I being shadowthief and that we threatend to off him? Nope.Own up to yr BS in Dec and Ill apologize to you for Sat
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That's the beauty of free speech, in that you have now proven that you did stick up for Dave's right to it at that sewer of a domain.
I totally disagree with you, however, on the merits of Dave's finds. Have you read the UGOG files? I'm not looking for any philosophical debate. If you aren't into this stuff, then you should have the courtesy to let it be for those trying to solve it.
What's not worthwhile about PROVING that the internet is rigged?
{I'm new to Kos/PFF/FSZ culture.}
Do you realise that the only reason I have been loud, is because I have been censored at the two biggest "progressive" forums? Where can one go for a meaningful, non-trolled, non-rigged discussion?
Vox Humana has shown his true colours. I went there and said that you deny being able to post at FSZ, yet he rambled on as if there is no doubt about you having an account there to post from.
Did you see what Lauren S wrote about me? Not only did she lie about me harvesting ip's, she wrote that I banned her in midstream based on her search patterns.
I did no such thing. That's ludicrous. Do you for one second believe her, that there is a possibility I did that?
I read through the link you gave. I agree with you that a couple nobodies can get a bunch done.
That is why they set up that new thread by Mattes to mock me. That's why they put in signatures mocking me.
Now do you have anything to say, as in dialogue, as to specifics, or are you just gonna go on about how fruitless this all is?
Did you see how I tied Fingerit into the fake "election integrity" crowd?
People have been blabbing for years about cointelpro-like crap on the internet, and Dave finally nailed them by finding the UGOG files and then figuring out that the prime suspect is a "lawyer/political consultant."
There's a reason I'm getting mocked. It's because this type of investigation, while esoteric, is worthwhile. Anyone who tries to sincerely cover this is mocked, plain and simple.
If all you are good for is to fight for our right to free speech, while belittling the details, where is the dialogue?
I will continue to work alone if I have to. But it's a shame when the cavalry never arrives.
I do see your point how a bunch egged Dave on, then when he solved the case, most of them ridiculed him, while his few supporters {except Abbeysbooks} abandoned him in public.
I ask only that you respect those few of us who continue on, even if you don't think it's worthwhile.
Any comment on Lauren S' crazy comment about me banning her in midstream as she was searching for some alleged comment I asked her to produce?
Who but some form of pro would write such a thing? How is Fingerit not some form of cointelpro?
You're saying they are just mentally, disturbed liars? I don't buy that. No one makes up elaborate lies or sophisticated scams like UGOG, have it sanctioned by the top Kos admins, for sh** & giggles. FSZ can now be seen for the controlled opposition that it is.
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We disagree. I see the point but its the same one I mocked sab, Something and dave on to their faces. I also dont really buy the conspiracy theory on this. This is just average people acting and reacting as usual, typickkkally in a self justifying group who want to believe what the PTB tells them no matter that its just ones word vs. anothers. They dont believe us but they believe the PTB. Natural. They dont like me and jack provides a home. Thats all. jack can do what he wants, characterize it or me any way he wants, there is no way short of what, suing to get him to release the records whether he banned me or not? RIOTOUS! No way to tell. I agree with you that the place is stupidly revealing of itself, but heres what dave missed and I think you mite miss too: you cant make a willfully blinded person see the truth. Only jesus could do that and it was so long ago nobody can prove that either! Plus, in the end, the herd offed him too, didnt they? I'm not going back there for my "crucifixion" and now they can all say, look! DT is comparing himself to Jesus! Ha Ha....no. As I stated, Im thru playing patacake with the herd just to reach the few intelligent and thotful posters, all of whom are considered trollz except Vox and forkedtongue, who may be getting closer to that exalted status lately. They get it, the rest dont and likely never will. Im not going back to help the site #s, altho I see Im still being rather helpful in absentia. Altho it seems that almost all the comments are now coming from even fewr posters than before and Jack is making quite a stink himself keeping it in the "news", especially now that his new ex kop peeps have rallied around. He even went to take his case to n00m over at MLW. He can come here if he wants to tangle some more. I'd like to see him man up on dave's blog and call me a liar, or wtf he wants to do here. Neutral site. Only seems sporting. He can reinstate me or wtf to make it look like I wasnt banned but Im done there as I said other nite.
DELETE MY ACCT JACK!!!!
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You triggered a memory I have of Herbert Marcuse. He said that we have to be intolerant of tolerance, because the status quo is set up so the ptb's get the final approval.
I think this new meta stuff popping up the last few days is a coverup of the big story that took place:
Jack claimed he wes an important cog in the outing of the UGOGs, you took him to task, and then he deleted it all. Then when pressed, you saw it, he came up with gobbledygook about not having a cancel button. It's like with the Lauren S claims that I banned her proxy account at my small forum because I have the skills to see her searching. Anyone can sign up for the same forum I have, and perhaps they can explain how that is done. The only codes I know are bb and html code for posting.
Jack got busted in outrageous lies. Same as when he made up the thing about you and Noomie having your usernames stolen.
You know, I actually took a look to see how you have allegedly stalked those women. I couldn't find a thing. And you're right, those are serious claims, whether they are for online stalking and/or real life. In there defense a lot has been deleted. So it becomes enigma time.
I don't think your account should be deleted though. Wouldn't that delete all your comments and everyone in its vicinity?
Hey dude, paragraph breaks are your friend.
That place does reveal its stupidity. They also make it obvious that one cannot get a fair shake there and will be ganged on. Who needs that? Why would anyone sign onto DU or DKos when it's blatantly obvious the places are rigged. Just check out Dave's journals at DU. There was only one or maybe a few people sticking up for him.
When I was at DU and DKos, same thing. The few of us at DU called Alexandrovna and others to task. We got called sock puppets, DoD, Diebold, which has actually changed its name to Premier Solutions or something.
Yes, on what would be the point of returning? The first time I quit the place, they were nice, Ned Flanders aka Vox was in my corner or so it seemed. DeeDogg backed off a bit.
Now why should I return when not one person is calling Lauren S to task for her outrageous allegations? Why should I return when no one who attacks my posts attacks the message through details and debate?
Vox and 4kedtongue appear to be bait and switch concern trolls. I think Number5 might be legit, and he just realised it was fruitless to stay there.
Abbeysbooks has pointed out that it took Dave a long time to realise that many usernames simply will never dialogue fairly. As for me, I am a Vox Humana type at first, but as soon as stuff blips on the radar, I do the doubletake.
Yes, we are being used to get their stats up. To help the place grow.
Jack censored the place. You called him on it. His excuses were the same old same old of not adding up, like when he banned Dave, when he called Fingerit a regular guy.
yeah, strange to see Jack run over to MLW for damage control.
I'm up to the 3000 character limit.
{continued}
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Vox is an interesting case study in self delusion....I just scanned the "Stalking Sabrina" diary which reduced him to babbling incoherency and found this vox nugget:
Well, gee willickers, isnt that exactly what happened Sat. nite Vox? Are you still popsting at FSZ,Looser? Are you truly a relgious man of principle, or simply just another internet junkie who is as FOS as the wrest of us?
RIOTOUS!
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Not much more to say. Just gonna repeat that the big news to me is how Jack censored his and your post pertaining to Dave and the UGOGs. I see this new drama as being a limited hangout.
I strive to be like Vox Humana in that he is kind, yet ironically and sadly his strategic ignorance and Ned Flanders like routine has run its course.
Guess that's about it.
Oh yeah, the numbers of posters now involved at FSZ are creeping downward into syncophant, circle jerk levels.
I also se Alec{82} has chimed in on that Mattes thread calling me an anti-semitic, disinfo troll.
People's and whole website's true colours have emerged. There will be no recovery for them or places like DU and DKos, nor for other fake progressives.
Oh yeah, a rightwing, disinfo troll would post the following?
http://NoMoreKosHate.dailykos.com
They call me anti-semitic because I don't fall for the run for the hills, it's the Joos nonsense, while I also throw in some critiques of the Israeli government.
I am only one person. I admit my blogging style is specialized. We can't know everything.
Perhaps the one thing that bonds us and others is that we hate injustice, even when we often times misinterpret each other while often our words and internet activities get twisted by the insidious and useful idiots.
It is near impossible to prove someone is intel.. But the one thing I feel helps is that the reader truly decides. Now if we could actually create safe havens for pure progressives, then the internet as a vehicle for positive social change could happen.
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Jack, Lauren S and the rest of that herd full of pros and useful idiots pack on lie after lie.
I could see Jack reinstating DT, provoke him to return, like they do with me, as a feeble attempt to revive an obviously rigged forum.
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Dave's free speech was denied at DKos and DU. Not only that, his credibility was attacked. I believe he had to become a trollbuster, and that after bashing the trolls, he was eventually gonna return to his bread and butter activism, the stuff that Antoinette and every other sincere progressive loved about him.
I even saw a Dave post once where he admitted to pondering entering politics. The sky was the limit for that kid.
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Well, it looks like I'm effectively locked out of FSZ now as well. The same thing that DonkeyTale describes is happening to me. I can sign into the front page but as soon as I click on any diary I'm booted off and can't comment. Gee, wonder what's up with that shit?
I was getting rather weary of Lauren, et al, anyway.
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Wow. What were you doing, defending the indefensible again? If so, sorry about that, although you are wright....that place has fallen into the hands of "bloodthirsty men" as it says in the Book of Proverbs. I cant remember the exact quote, but it pretty much disses the PTB who takes counsel from the vicious herd. RIOTOUS! And there IS nothing new under the sun...the amount of smoke being blown repeatedly by the few regulars has reached the heights of absurdium. KKKracks me up.
Maybe it is a glitch like everybody claims as if they know, even tho they dont. I love the smell of willful ignorance in the morning!
BTW, this is exactly how banning worked for me back at T-giving too, and n00m also claimed at the time, I believe, the same process, and uh, jackee admitted we were banned then, but now its a glitch. This story done for me. N00m looking for the repeat magic on MLW, but I'm out. Point made. The 7 regular loosers and snow white jackee can all congratulate each other and slap high fives into eternity while anyone peering in with a half ounce of honesty and perspective can see whats happening. Something tells me wherever they all end up they will have gone together....in a self protective herd, of course. Gotta band together to keep the light from shining in.
Do you think you were banned, or do you ascribe to the glitch theory? Since you know the history of the whiteysphere as well as I do, they probably would resent and fear your coming in, like you did in the 'Stalking Sabrina' diary to talk, y'know, sensibly and honestly with an accurate feel and perspective and no conflicting loyalties to cloud your judgment.
Stick around super.
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I see I have a VERY long tale in the whiteysphere. Now MSOC is begging me to come back, just like Jack did over and over. I can smell a kkkop sting from a mile away, ha ha.
Note to both you loosers, who resemble each other more than a bit, I mite add.
You had me once, but I'm gone so feel free to rip me a new one in absentia for as long as you feel the need.
You both still have n00m. He's DT-lite but he'll have to do.
RIOTOUS!
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Jack's blog wont survive long if he keeps letting users post people's names and addresses and make death threats towards them. It's a bit scary actually, I wonder if Soapblox should be notified?
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FSZ is acting very strangely lately. I kept getting those gateway "404" notices when I tried to log in this morning. Jack himself said all IP addresses are looking the same to him. Could all these things be related?
Now things are back to normal for me again there and have been since about 1:30 p.m. How about others here? Can everyone else get back?
This will most likely be my only post here. I hope everyone is well.
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I saw a comment from Jack saying that everything is in order now, operational wise, but I still can't get on the site to comment. I doubt he banned me but I also doubt that many there would be concerned if some of us could never conveniently comment there again. Divine internet intervention. It's a DeeDog world there now.
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I still can't get onto FSZ to comment or rate despite seeing a cooment by Jack claiming all is well with the works. I'm sure it would serve the (narrow) purposes of more than a few there if a certain few of us were never able to get back on there, banned or not. I don't want to make more of it than what it is but it's plain that the prevailing sentiment isn't going with you or anyone who defends your right to be there. Apologists, as DeeDog calls us. Yah, as if it goes that deep.
What was that shit Doris Dy used to sing? Que se ra? Yeah that's it. Perfect. And THAT's why I love the whiteysphere :o) haha!
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i cant post either, its a purge.
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well,
at least I gave the detectives something to chew on for a while until I can get back in. DeeDog will be sniffing out another blood trail now that I mistakenly attributed one of Lauren's comments to him. I suspect it will lead to a week of DeeDog posting diaries demanding answers and apologies from me:o) With Barney Fi33fe bringing up the rear. Oh boy, I can't wait! :o) But you know, they all sound so similar it was an honest mistake. Demands for apologies, explanations...self flaggelation...you know :o)
I shouldn't blame them for taking their attempts at suppression as seriously as I do my own attempts to keep that place open and free wheeling. At least they're dedicated and don't back down as easily as Felonious Mongoose did the other night. That would be boring.
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I downloaded and installed firefox as my browser instead of IE and now it works fine for me. Time to go back and tango :o) Lauren's probably lickin her lips as I speak. That, or sharpening the spikes on the Morningstar!
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Reply to donkeytale (4-3/09) - I'm not sure where this is going to show up and I hope it will post:
Yes, it is the same thing. Fortunately you were there to call it out. I think Jack thought the better of his comment and erased it, which took yours with it. Under the criterion you are now trying to have me post under, we all would have had to leave after Dave's diaries and comments were deleted. Many of us thought it was by request - in fact, diaries here say so. Were they? It seems so.
For the record here, I really don't think anybody has been banned. The site still is not completely back to normal. Firefox seems to be the best browser. I will continue to read here to see if there are still problems.
The quote you use here is out of context. I had earlier in that diary asked you to limit your comments in a way that was similar to the way dave et al were being asked to limit their comments. You rightly protested, and I was trying to explain to you and others in the thread how I saw them as the same thing.
As to self-delusion and Ned Flanders (whoever that is) and all the other stuff, I can't speak to that. I'll let others judge (as if we all don't anyway!).
What does your prison project involve? Is it specific to one place or is it more overarching?
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Yes it is the same thing. You are correct. So, now, you are saying that thats OK, censorship by the site perp is OK? He admits somewhere that he's done the same thing 'millions of times', ie deleting comments rather than face up, man up, argue back or admit he's showboating over the entire dfq/UGOG incident. Is that OK for you too?
Its not for me. As for the prison project, I have signed on at Webb's site, and have written to my congress dipshit too. I havent gone farther at this point, since the legislation is still new. I avent had a chance toon Thomas.gov yet but plan to do so this weekend.
Whether I'm banned or not is beside the point now. I'm done. Whether I was banned or not is irrelevant. The true colours are up over there for the world to see. The dipshitz of course, will never see.
ANd you can bet your ass I'm not going to download foxfire, or wtf, just so I can play patacake with the herd. The places is all theirs. Why not come here unedr the sign of King David from Queens and see if this place can live up to his example? Or do you still claim to have a higher calling at the un-FSZ? EPIC FAIL!!!!!
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Forgot to address the question re: was the deleting of daves stuff not the same? No, its not the same. I'm not sure I even know why or who deleted daves stuff, but jack deleting any comment threads he wants anytime and place he wants is not the same as a dairiest deleting his own stuff, or a dairiest requesting his stuff be scrubbed. If Jack unilaterally deleted dave's FSZ stuff than I would have a problem with that, bigtime, too. I was under the impression tht dave deleted it himslef or requested that jack delete it, but who knows?
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I think Dave deleted a few of his diaries, but the majority seem to have been deleted by Jack, and probably because of that deal he made with 'regular guy' Fingerit.
Dave was happy that a lot was deleted. Trollbusting can be an inexact science. I think he was happy to have second chances to rewrite stuff here on his own terms.
But why should Jack delete anything, especially his own posts? I agree, DonkeyTale. That's not fair. I'm not buying his act either that he didn't realise you had posted after him.
I think we should man up, and if we write something stupid, rather than delete it, try to explain/correct the brain cramp.
Jack's thing is he plays stupid, like he's on wacky weed. Well, maybe he should downgrade to Mexicali? Or maybe he isn't who he claims to be? Why does he seem to be aligned with Pager and Lauren? Man, if that was my website, I'd be yelling at Lauren S more than anyone.
Hey, I know I appear kooky at times. That makes things a bit safe for me in a way. But doesn't it seem kind of rigged how I was treated at FSZ? I leave, then Mattes started that Alexandrovna thread saying now she understands why Larisa is attacked, because she is an anti-zionist Jew. Then they all piled on.
Alec82 and Jack have been calling me a rightwing troll. Lauren was saying I banned her proxy midstream. WTF? I told her like anyone else if they are gonna make a claim, provide a link. She was saying I harvest ip's. It's like they don't want folks even trying to check out my independent, cyber sleuthing. I know I'm not God's gift to blogging, but some of my stuff can open doors or save folks time. Some of my stuff is darn good. Ben Burch going after Violet Blue. That guy Hertzberg. My rambles on BradBlog and Anonymous Army. My stuff on Rivero. Hey, even for chemtrails or some of the anti-war stuff is interesting.
I put up screenshots of my getting some weird cyberscript thrown at me by the Rivero "Unofficial" WRH website. I know a lot of stuff is convoluted and confusing, but why does Lauren go out of her way to scare the reader away from me, a friggen nobody?
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If he has been using "delete" in lieu of a "cancel" button, I would be okay with that. When other comments are attached that is not right - though I felt in your case since you were there to summarize what happened you were still able to say what you wanted to say. It does make me wonder how many other times it might have happened. I have to think people would have spoken up about it if it had happened to them, just as you did. I know I would.
From my comment, I didn't mean you should download anything, or come back, or go, or do anything you don't want to do. I just meant to say I think you and howardx could if you wanted to. supersoling already found out he could. For selfish reasons I wish you were all still there because you call me out when I make mistakes, among your many other contributions. I'll have to ask your forgiveness in advance as I keep working my way through what seems right and wrong, given the best information I have at the time and given my preference for infinite chances for "redemption." For all of us.
To tell the truth, I see more every day that when this gets wearying it is time to move on. There is so much to do and so little time.
And I hope this posts to your comment. I keep hit "Reply to this" but it posted at the bottom.
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why would you be OK with jack deleting someones comments in any case? If he made a foolish boasting comment, whats so special about that, especially from thge King Teeny booper his own self?
Can the wrest of us delete our foolish boastful comments too after we publish them?
Two other points to make about what is obviously your own willful self ignorance: 1. curmudgette on MLW said that the admin has a cancel button. So if this is another glitch speciifc only to FSZ, shouldnt it be, uh, corrected instead of used by the head perp "millions of times" to scrub a public record? Why is now the first mention of this glitch by jack, considering, as he claims he self deleted his comments so many times previously?
2. If he didnt like the post before he made it, why didnt he simply click his back arrow, as socrates suggested? EVen this old dog knows that trick...that step wipes out the comment before its posted, not after.
AT this point vox, you are sounding suspiciously like all the other truth evading dissemblers who so badly want to believe in the PTB that they will rationalize ad nauseum to themselves to justify their fun little sinecure.
In Hell.
RIOTOUS! Another fallen religious idol in our midst.
On second thot, forget what I said about posting here. You truly belong there as much as any of them.
Later!
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interesting how many chances jack gets from vox, from what i can tell he should have boycotted fsz a long time ago if he actually walked it like he talks it.
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Vox Humana, I agree with these other dudes. You are so in love with the concept of free speech, that you can't see how many times Jack is cheating.
Ned Flanders is a character from the Simpsons. He is over the top goody two-shoes. Nothing personal, but the problem folks seem to have with you is that you are acting being fair. I'm not saying be a creep, be mean, and curse. But Jack's explanation never added up.
He could've hit backspace or closed the window. Why can't you see that fundamental point? Then he said he didn't realise there was a post or two after his? Where's the logic to that? We may joke around, have our own styles, but even a guy like DT with his funny writing style seems to be trying to make himself clear. Everyone is flawed. But when the big cheese is a cheater, why remain?
It's as if you try to frustrate others through faking cognitive dissonance.
How 'bout when he made up that lame story about Noom and DonkeyTale? Or when he called Fingerit a regular guy? Or even how he said myself and Noom are the same guy? It's all because he smokes very strong weed?
Come on. The cancel button comment was preposterous. Why can't you see that? I saw one of his comments deleted like that before, but I can't prove it.
He took down the UGOG files for a time. He made a deal with Fingerit. I don't even know why I'm trying to reason with you. I've tried to reason with others, and it's been as if they were just trying to make me feel frustrated.
Supersoling asked me about my interests in the election integrity stuff. I made a long post, even linking to Booman Tribune for him. He never responded. But Pager, CometMan, DeeDogg, and Lauren S were always around to call me a creep through ad hominems.
Why are you there? It's a big blogosphere. You do realise that Jack was never a big player at PFF, and that most of these others are ex-KosKops and some like DeeDogg are KosKops?
Dave got egged on. Then when he delivered the goods, he got shit on.
It's tough for me to think a smart guy like you, Vox, can't see the trees for the forest.
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You are all making good points and I wish I had time to respond right now. I just typed a big comment myself that seems to have disappeared. I don't know what I am doing wrong, but this site is hard for me to get my posts to work.
I'll try to answer as best I can later this weekend if anyone is still around.
I hope THIS comment posts! I've already lost three and am about to give up entirely.
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Well, now there is some new sock pretending to be me, "Oscar Wilde Mayer" or wtf, and altho he is like me only in his use of "kkk", commentman is giving himself a hernia spreading the disinfo around that Oscar is moi....has there ever been a wienerie wiener in the anals of Whiteyspheric hysteria than commentman? Wow. I thot turds that big only existed as punching bags in fiction....but no, there is at least one such in the whiteysphere too, and he appears to be real. And now, here comes Smirking jack in his newest persona: superhero troll buster. He's going to the kkkops, the real kkkops with this one.
RIOTOUS! Vox, dont come back to explain, really. Its not necessary at all. Whatsoever. Its all explained already. It explains itslef.
Watching the watchers was Anthony Levensalor, who has done work with both Raw Story and Velvet Revolution.
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2004/12/8/839/69142
So yes, Bev Harris was thrown under the bus, while BradBlog and Velvet Revolution got pushed to the forefront.
Bev debunking the Curtis story:
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2004/12/8/25037/7008
This diary from Dec. 6th, 2004 had 566 posts. That was the day Brad got the Clint Curtis scoop. And who do folks think found Clint Curtis? Yeah, the Speedway Bomber. Who is in the middle of the Michael Connell/Spoonamore thing? Bk the conman yet again.
But I'm a stalker. That's the ticket. Or wait, maybe I'm DoD seeing I can ban people in midstream on my small forum primarily devoted to weather mitigation and internet fakes. Sassafrassa.
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Oops, here's that 566 comment Dkos thread:
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2004/12/6/143511/080
And now MajorFlaw can be connected to this Election Integrity crowd AND to moderating shenanigans at both DU and DKos. Yet, I'm DoD, so disregard. [/snarkfest]
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Another attempted reply:
d-tale 4-3 1:08 p.m.
1a. yes. 1b. I don't know. It's a good point. Wouldn't other people have spoken up if he were doing this a lot and if he had done it to them? I would!
2. I like seeing my comments as they will appear (in preview) before I hit "post," going back and forth between the typed form and the way it will look. Maybe he does too. Back to your 1a, he should see if that can be fixed, yes.
howardx 1:10 p.m.: No. The situation at HTP was different for the reasons I explained at fsz (is that what you mean?). All I knew was that nobody consulted me, it was an important decision, and I was an "admin" there, whatever that was supposed to mean. There was probably a better solution for me to do. I didn't see it at the time. I'll take my lumps on that one.
Prepostericity 3:38 p.m.: Your argument here is better - and, yes, Jack has made mistakes. He underestimated what would happen the longer he is administrator. From the time he made those bannings, his role there has changed and I still don't think he realizes that. [as to a later comment]: Sorry if I "creep you out." I yam who I yam. It's not an act - and if YOU think I'm annoying, you should talk to my teenage children!
And back to d-tale's 5:48 post: I'll come back as I please, thank you. I'm not trying to explain anything other than why I do what I do. I thought you were asking. If you want to discuss me without paying attention to what I am trying to say, I'll look forward to hearing just how that makes you different from the other posters you deride. RI.O.TOUS!
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There is no reason for me to explain just as there was no reason for you to explain. Its already explained.
Here's the difference between "me" and "them": They are blind. I can see.
There one of each of them while I number in the multitudes, and I am spreading virally through the systems, around the systems, over under sideways down the systems, the metastisizing donkeytale looms ever large in certain rear view mirrors of this fake thing we call life but in reality is nothing, going nowhere, blah blah blog destruction!
The atonement is not yet complete. Post away vox! Thrill us with the minutiae of what he did, why he did what he did, how he did what he did, oh trees, oh forest, oh minerals, oh animalz.
We are all donkeytale now.
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You're not fooling anyone, Bev Harris.
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you'll take your lumps, nice. youre a hypocrite.
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Vox is admin at the Gay Pickle?
RIOTOUS!
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he overstates that, he was in no way an admin there, we all had the power to promote diaries. thats it. there was no reason to discuss anything with him because it was none of his business.
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I just told Vox off in the worst way possible, yet he praised me. That's the equivalent of Lauren S or UGOGs throwing in odd head-scratching uprates.
Don't believe what DT is saying. He is really Bev Harris and part of the DoD/Diebold propaganda.
Yikes, now I'm sounding like any other stupid, predictable snark.
One cannot win at blogging. You can't really lose either. Combine Sartre with Rod Serling, throw in some I love Lucy.
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