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• 2/6/2009 1:58 PM davefromqueens wrote:
  Just a note to some others who make some good points.
  
  1. Yes, I am applying Kos Kop rules to Kos Kops. (Not all of them, certain things are out of bounds)
  
  2. The Kos Kops have outed people for years. I was far from the first. Prior to this, I outed (in all forms) a grand total of nobody in 10 years of online activity.
  
  3. Of course they are trying to "direct their anger" at me. That's part of why they infiltrated your site. The goal was to discredit the truths I've posted about them. Thing is, while I know the real names of many of the people at FSZ, some of whom I don't like, I would NEVER out them.
  
  The "anger towards me" though has enabled dozens of other people with gripes against these sickos to sneak into Daily Kos under the radar and cause havoc. It's possible some are planning their real life revenge as I type. If I were the Kos Kops, I'd be worried.
  
  Oh, final note, that's why I don't sockpuppet at Daily Kos. (Although there are thousands doing it b/c you've pissed off so many people.) That's about the only thing that could cause me to lose credibility.
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• 2/6/2009 6:18 PM Changed by DFQ wrote:
  Dave:
  
  I don't believe I've ever had any issue with you in the past, so I don't know why you're dragging me into this. I was largely offline during the time leading up to your departure from dkos. I wasn't involved in any of that and don't recall ever having a cross word for you.
  
  Have I sometimes acted in ways that some might find reprehensible? Sure. But I've only had serious disagreements with a handful of people online. I am not part of any group, nor a member of UGOG.
  
  I have never been witness to any of the people on your list outing anyone. That's not to say they have or haven't . . . I just don't know and frankly don't want to be involved enough in your RL war over this to find out.
  
  I have young children to worry about and your incendiary rhetoric here could create a danger to them were you ever to actually learn my real identity.
  
  Please leave me out of this.
  
  Editor's Note - Request being honored by me.
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  1. 2/6/2009 10:56 PM davefromqueens wrote:
     1. Unlike Ugog, I don't bring children into it. Your buddies at Ugog have actually threatened two different Daily Kos' users children in the past as part of their troll hunting. And yes they've outed multiple times. Kos has the power to put an end to outings by banning all of them for it, the FPers involved (4 of them) and a front page apology. See, that's it. Am I asking for reinstatement? No I am not.
     
     2. Those who consistently uprate the UGOGERs comments related to the meta ARE involved. There's no excuse for that.
     
     3. Notwithstanding #2, I am taking your name off this list. I think I mentioned it in one other diary. I will also delete your screenname used. Again, unlike Kos and Ugog, I am reasonable.
     
     4. If you are truly not part of this, then you must truly stay out of it and that means not uprating or backing up UGOG behavior at DailyKos in the future.
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     1. 2/7/2009 11:39 AM noone wrote:
        On #2, backing the gang gives them cover, gives them approval for their actions. If a person backs the gang, they are a gang member. I will be watching "Changed".
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        1. 2/7/2009 5:18 PM davefromqueens wrote:
           True. True, True. However, I'm reasonable and if people want out and are going to stop, I'll accommodate them and let bygones be bygones.
           
           The main Kos Kops dirtbags (Majorflaw, bottles/condoleaser, trashablanca, mbnyc, bouwerie boy, musing85 are the main thugs.) Browneyes, PaintyKat, dadanation, tecampbell, ahianne/runaway rose, volvodrivingliberal, truthofangels, andy S In Colorado, shane hensinger, democratic luntz, Elise, and a couple of more are the support staff. They are all guilty as sin. The lesser players seek a clique. They've never had acceptance or love in life, any of them (especially the top 5). These are people who will do anything to belong to a group. If they lived in Germany in 1933, they'd all be cheering Hitler just to have the sense of belonging.
           
           What have these thugs AT Daily Kos or because people posted at Daily Kos? Here's a short list:
           
           A) Outed multiple people's real names
           B) Threatened the lives of their children
           C) Investigated their families
           D) Posted other people's place of work at Dailykos and urged others to send anonymous emails to try and get them fired.
           
           Kos is aware of all this yet chooses to back up these people for his sick purposes. Also, it became clear that ScoutFinch, Hunter, barbinmd, Dhinmi, and MissLaura are knee deep in this pile of shit. The Latter 5 are all enablers and for each day they exist at Daily Kos, every bit of their personal info being splattered everywhere is fair game in my book. If they want to leave the site voluntarily or they get banned for their behavior, then circumstances change.
           
           Now if DailyKos is so against outings, then the correct thing to do is ban MajorFlaw, bottles/condoleaser, trashablanca, mbnyc, bouwerie boy, musing85, dadanation, tecampbell, for starters. That also means Barb, Dana, Laura, and Jennifer are shown the door.
           
           But Kos can't do it because he has no sense of decency, he has no conscience. And I can't be criticized for outings b/c my purpose is justified righteousness as a reaction while the outings at DK were affirmative and unprovoked. And if I am criticized for the outings by them (as opposed to people like Vox who have principled stands) then the question remains, "Why don't you ban those involved?
           
           Of course I could always count on that intellectual featherweight Laura Clawson to go on record as saying that there's now a statute of limitations for outings. So enjoy Lloyd Lachow.
           
           So Kos kop 1 is a sodomizing supporting psychopath who fantasizes about guys commenting on his ass so he can beat them up.
           
           Kos Kop 2 is an admitted sexual assaulter of women.
           
           Kos Kop 3 is a 400 lb excrement who supports sodomizing Daily Kos Users and torturing a 14 year old kid.
           
           Kos Kop 4 is a racist homoerotic asshole who is despised by everyone in local NY politics
           
           Kos Kop 5 is living in the Bowery and literally is one screw away from being admitted into Creedmore.
           
           Those are their top 5 supporters. Kos owns them.
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• 2/6/2009 11:15 PM a/k/a Changed by DFQ wrote:
  Thank you Dave.
  
  I also appear in your top 25-30 list for last month. If you wouldn't mind taking that down too, I would very much appreciate it.
  
  Peace.
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  1. 2/6/2009 11:56 PM davefromqueens wrote:
     I think I found it. If I missed it, tell me the date of the diary and I'll take it out.
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• 2/7/2009 8:31 PM abbeysbooks wrote:
  You are relentless. Don't stop.
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  1. 2/7/2009 8:51 PM davefromqueens wrote:
     There's only a couple of Kos Kops left whose full names aren't listed. They all deserve it for they supported the outing of others. And yes, those who uprate the Kos Kops when they pick on people are guilty as sin.
     
     Now the funny thing is abbey is that over a month ago I offered to take down every piece of real life information about any daily Kos user so long as
     
     a) they did the same at their site (I gave 3 specific examples still there) and
     
     b) all the Real life info came down at Ugog.
     
     As a good faith gesture I took down a whole bunch of RL info and created a schedule where they would do some and I would then do more. Instead they did nothing.
     
     So yes Kos and Ugog both decided that it was okay to keep Real life info when there was a chance to end it all a month ago. Now they're stuck. I'm going to pound, proverbially speaking, Kos' little Napoleon head into the sand until he has no oxygen left and then I'm going to, proverbially speaking, pound his head some more.
     
     But this shows how much Kos cares about his community. He doesn't care what happens to his members.
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